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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. No Worries

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    Why do you always have to tell people what their opinions are?

    BTW I would be very surprised if @MadMax celebrates the death of poor people, in any shape or form ... yet ... you somehow think he does.
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    Because a truly compassionate person would want the deaths to stop at once, regardless of outcome. You war mongers are fine with more death if your team wins
     
  3. No Worries

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    I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

    I for one am not cheerleading for deaths in any of the world's ongoing wars: Israel Gaza, Russia Ukraine, Israel/US Iran, etc. The best solution for most wars is for the killing to stop, the aggressor to go home and a peaceful, political solution sought. When the aggressor will not stop, what to do? For example, most countries in the world condemned Russia's invasion. Some countries put action behind their words (like the US did until Trump's second term) and supported Ukraine with guns and money. Those actions allowed Ukraine to fight back, instead of Russian genocide. FWIW the Russian do have a history of committing genocide in Ukraine; see Holodomor. Thus, there is a strong reason that Ukraine is fighting back.

    Now if Russia stopped all aggressions and maintained a cease fire, you might have a point ... if my team (whatever the **** that means) kept cheerleading the Ukrainians to kill all of the poor Russian soldiers. But that is just serious fancy thinking ... one might even say disingenuous.
     
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  4. MadMax

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    He picked his side and you know who I am
     
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  5. MadMax

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    You’re a joke here…do you know that? No one here takes you seriously because you move the bar all the time. You pretend to be above it all, but you’re not at all. Not even close. You pretend to play the middle, but everyone sees through it. You understand that right? No one here believes in your make believe illusion of you being a moderate above it all….right? Because you’re so ****ing wrong about everything it’s a joke.

    There are things worth fighting for, and Ukrainians have showed us that. i thought you were an American and would understand that. There are some things…like sovereignty…that are worth fighting for. We built an amazing nation around that and framed a Constitution around it.

    You’ve told us for a very long time that the Ukrainians were fighting for their sovereignty for nothing…and you were so ****ing wrong like you’re so ****ing wrong all the ****ing time.

    Tell your Russian bot friends to go home….you lost again and you’re wrong again. You don’t have an ounce of the courage of those Ukrainian men did to defend their home…..so you choose the other side because it’s easier just to play the skeptic and side with something awful

    You’re a ****ing joke….grow up
     
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  6. Space Ghost

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    Of course you don't know what Im talking about. You're still crowing in about how Russia is the aggressor and if they returned home, problem solved. Thanks captain obvious. You sound like a toddler crying because his grandmother is dying of cancer and doesn't understand why the cancer just won't leave.

    The adult conversation is the worth of Kiev. It's definitely not worth 1.2m souls, but clearly you think it's worth much more than that. It's not that big of a deal if Russia controls it, definitely not worth 1.2m lives. Anyone who thinks else wise has little value of human life. But clearly you're all in. What's it worth to you? 10m? 20m? How many more deaths need to be subsidized by the US government to feed your lust to be righteous?
     
  7. Space Ghost

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    The fallacy here is that you are under the assumption that I do not believe a group of people do not have a right to defend themselves. You are very wrong.

    But conscription is not a practice of voluntery sacrafice . Conscription is evil. But that's ok. You have a right to believe a country has a right to force poor people to.fight for old rich people. It's always easier to send another man's children to die in a war. I am 100% certain your view would change if the government required your children to be sacraficed for this war. Paying 25% more for oil would be a bargain to bring your child back
     
  8. MadMax

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    No one here was calling for a draft to go defend Ukraine….are you serious right now? Is this your last gasp after telling us big bad Russia was inevitable and being so ****ing wrong like you are…alllll..the …****ing….time….???

    You told us the Ukrainians could never defend their sovereignty….they have and they will. What are you gonna be wrong about next? Wait I already know. No, but you’re the moderate who loves to pretend he’s above it all.

    I can live with being wrong….but I can’t live with being disingenuous, becasue I shave every morning and have to see myself in the mirror. No clue how you do that if the person shaving is actually real…which is why I said it would be cool if you just acknoweldged you’re a bot and moved on
     
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  9. No Worries

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    @Space Ghost : My opinion is this and your opinion must be that.
    @No Worries : No, that is not my opinion.
    @Space Ghost : Your are wrong. Your opinion is what I say it is.
    and so on and so on ...

    @MadMax , isn't it strange that @Space Ghost mentions 1.2M lives (which is roughly the number of the casualties of Russian soldiers) as the cost that is not worth it? If only Ukraine had not fought back, those 1.2M Russian soldiers would still alive!!!
     
  10. MadMax

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    You’re flailing here and everyone can see it :) Grow the **** up
     
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  11. MadMax

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    I’m an Irish American and it’s funny to me how much I am an Anglophile about Dunkirk and the Battle of Britain. I’m pretty much a pacifist at this point until you attack me and my home. The Ukrainians have their own versions of Spitfires :)

    Slava Ukrani!
     
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    No he doesn’t see it at all….not sure what the motivation is…but very certain it’s not a moderate voice lol
     
  13. TheFreak

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    No way this is true. Don’t know who you’re wasting all this time on, and that’s how I know it’s definitely not true.
     
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    I’m throwing his slow ass on ignore too. I’ve read too much stupidity feels like I’m losing brain cells here.
     
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    The alt right really doesn't believe in anything except being an ******* to people you feel are inferior.
     
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    I remember when I was 8 years old and thought I knew how the world works.
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    With anti drone lasers.... this is really starting to look like sci fi becoming reality very quick.

     
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  18. SamFisher

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    Folks, not only did the US under Trump/Vance/MAGA/ @Space Ghost /Elon / @glynch opt for the morally repugnant and strategically idiotic side in choosing the shambling collection of alcoholic domestic violence enthusiasts that is the Putinist Regime - that would be bad enough as is.

    However, it is becoming increasingly apparent that they picked the losing side and that the spectre of Trump and his ultimate weakness probably helped contribute to its loss.
     
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