so I guess that I reject the premise that u have to draft at your draft position. Good GM’s make trades up and down the board to access value. They also trade picks for future picks, even sometimes trading out of drafts entirely. It’s not always possible, but for example, I know for a fact we could have traded down and/or out of the Reed draft. Certainly Cadtle was the better prospect, probably Clingan too. Same with the Jalen draft. Barnes and Mobley are better players. Hell, Franz, Giddy, Jalen Johnson are better players. In the Bari draft we now see that Duran and JWill would have both been better picks, but I don’t begrudge Stone that pick. My point is several of our top 4 picks have not panned out well. None of our picks in the early 20’s have panned out. Tari was a great pick, but he’s a role player. Sengun and Amen (who was the obvious pick) are the home runs…out of all those picks. I just think that’s a very mixed track record. Just my opinion of course.
I won’t say that I know his personal views in depth but I know that he’s given speeches on racial wealth gaps, systemic inequalities and mentioned wanting to bring something akin to Blackwall Street to Boston. Brown has also been outspoken on policing issues
Does anyone give a crap about any of this? Like if he was making 20% of the cap instead of 35% of the cap teams would have been lining up to get him. Every non superstar on a supermax who gets traded gets traded for nothing, that’s the reality of the new cba.
The pick of Green and Christopher was was the fail especially with Barnes and Mobley on the board. They fell for the highlights vs a guy young, sound with upside like the 2 earlier. Barnes or Mobley with Sengun eliminate the signing of FVV or Brooks.
I was speaking specifically about Tilman's desire to trade for him (which appears to have been none). I don't think that Brown's political views were the only reason but I don't think they were a non-factor. Tilman doesn't strike me as the type to want an employee with radically different views than his own. But maybe I'm wrong.
So if trading for brown was a positive for the rockets, you think he would pass? I was vehemently against trading for him because of the cap situation but if he was making reasonable money it’s totally different.
Someone who is a positive value. Brown with his contract is a negative value so it was impossible for the rockets to make a reasonable trade unless Boston was willing to give up picks. We didn’t have a horrid contract like Philly had, that’s why it was so hard for Boston to trade him.
No, I personally don’t believe that Brown simply being a positive player would have been enough for Tilman to trade for him. But I could be wrong.
With the politics stuff? Obviously they have a problem with him being delusional and wanting to be the man and all that, but that’s different
If they picked Mobley over Green, you think the Rockets would be dramatically better than today? Maybe incrementally, at best. The Green pick was a good decision at the time. Even today, they got good value back for him. I don't blame Stone for picking Green. As for picks lower than, say, 15, the Rockets are better than league average making those picks. Name me one team that never has misses for second round picks or low first round picks? You need to lower your bar of expectations. Just for fun, ChatGPT says there is a 3% chance that a player picked lower than 15 turns into an all-star.
There’s just no way to know how things would have unfolded had the Rockets selected Mobley. First and foremost, I think he’s very overrated. Second, and perhaps more important, had they selected Mobley, I doubt they trade up for Sengun.
Mobley and Barnes were the best players along with upside. Mobley and Sengun would compliment each other perfect. Barnes and Sengun, would also compliment each other better. Both Barnes and Mobley are top shelf defenders to compliment Sengun and both were far more mature than Green the G league ignite player. Again, go and revist the thread on here and see the argument.The mere fact both are better shooters than Green even early in their career than Green is a testament to the miss.
You think he's overrated, but everything they did to move up to get Sengun would've still been good. Drafting Garuba and playing him in front of Sengun says alot. That was the downfall and have us in the position the Rox are in now.
