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Sengun for Giannis needs to happen …

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RB713, Jan 3, 2026.

  1. daywalker02

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    Physical traits are just one thing, Sengün has the rare confidence that he is not afraid.......

    That is almost half of the Battle.

    Wemby has sometimes done well against Giannis, Giannis works against 27 other teams and maybe Thunder.

     
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  3. Mathloom

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    If there is even a 1% chance Mobley gets traded, we should give them Sengun and anything they want but Amen.

    Mobley and Amen is a pairing I’m so willing to be patient with. Our defense would become #1 instantly and our spacing issues are solved. Opens up infinite drives for Amen and Durant. You can even sometimes put Amen in the dunker spot without resulting in a crowded paint. Sheppard becomes way more playable. Changes everything.

    Unfortunately I doubt they trade him. He’s the best asset compared to Giannis, Brown.
     
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    I agree with Mobley and Amen as a great core start, even better if you can hang onto Jabari in that scenario. I don’t see the fit for Sengun in Cleveland, but if we could get involved with a third team and send out Kd, Sengun and picks to land Mobley and a SG, I’d be all over it. I put together a fairly reasonable trade that would land Giannis in Cleveland, Mobley in Houston, and Sengun and KD in Milwaukee.
     
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    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/rocket-needs-for-2026-27-season.329618/page-3#post-16184440

    I already solved the salary issue.

    KD would want to be in Cleveland with James and Giannis. You don't send KD somewhere he doesn't want to be.
     
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    What’s better? Sengun on his contract, or Mobley on his?
     
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    2026-27 $50,105,628
    2027-28 $53,817,156
    2028-29 $57,528,684
    2029-30 $61,240,212

    Role player making superstar money(30-32% of cap) but doesn’t need the ball, good defensive player

    2026-27 $35,642,202
    2027-28 $37,339,450
    2028-29 $39,036,697
    2029-30 $39,036,697 (Player Option)

    Modest money (21% of cap) but needs the offense ran through him, not great defensively


    I think teams would rather have Mobley, “bad/overpaid contract” and all.
     
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  9. treyk3

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    It depends on how you see both growing.

    If the 2025/26 versions of both players are the finished product, I think you'd probably rather have overpaid Mobley at this point. He theoretically provides spacing as is and is deemed to be an elite defender even if he seems underwhelming at times.

    He's easier to fit in vs design around. You don't need to make up for his defense so you theoretically can play Reed more and he can clean up the slop.

    I like to project what a player may do in a new role.

    Sengun is not utilized well here, I think he would look much better in a different system. That's not going to happen here anytime soon if I had to guess.

    The unknown of Mobley in this system with more responsibility on offense is at least intriguing. He also has two seasons where he shot 37% from three (huge drop off last season but still just slightly worse than Sengun last year) so that's a realistic outcome AS IS.

    I think its a tough question but I do think Milwaukee would prefer Sengun to try to build through at a lower # than a Mobley. The new lottery system values mediocrity and a team with

    Ryan Rollins/Alperen Sengun/ Myles Turner and whatever else they can get from a Giannis trade is probably good enough to win 35 games in the weakened East.

    If all the Rockets have to give up is Sengun/DFS/Capela you are a much more well rounded team. If Sengun ends up taking a leap you have some egg on your face. The Rockets seem pretty LOCKED IN on Amen being the guy on the roster to build around. Building around Amen/Sengun is trickier than building around Amen as a hub on offense and having Mobley co-anchor the defense to reduce energy expended by Amen on defense makes some amount of sleep.

    FVV / Reed
    Amen
    KD
    Jabari / Tari
    Mobley/ Adams

    could also do Durant + Capela for Mobley + Tyson into the TPE.

    Harden and Durant would need to want to play together.

    FVV/Reed
    Amen / Tyson
    Jabari/Tari
    Mobley
    Sengun/Adams

    Could also consider trading Jabari + a pick for Trey Murphy in this instance.
     
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    For the Ro
     
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    I am of the belief that they both are pretty much what they are and that the lemon has been squeezed dry…Sengun could take a leap if he ever became a respectable shooter, but I don’t see that happening

    I can be talked into the team that features a frontcourt of KD, Jabari, and Mobley…I don’t see the Cavs ever trading Mobley for KD, and especially Mobley + Tyson
     
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    IF LeBron is interested in coming there imagine a team with KD/Mitchell/Harden/LeBron though. Tyson is purely salary, the TPE makes the trade work, Rockets would probably have to give something additional to them.

    I do agree that Giannis / Mobley / Sengun trade is the more likely way we would get Mobley here though.

    I genuinely believe that Sengun was severely hampered by back injuries last season and that is why he had issues finishing at the rim at times and others he looked great. The problem with back injuries is they can linger forever.
     
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    42 year old Lebron, 38 year old KD, 37 year old James Harden. That would be wild lol.
     
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    LeBron may have done some absolutely mind-blowing things in truth when you look at some of his winning years and his battles with the Warriors, but he aint ****ing making up for the least clutch playoff superstar who aint a pedo.
     
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    Nah, Sengun, Thompson,Adams and a pick. Once they made the KD trade, they were all in. Im sure you're watching OKC v SA and the Rockets don't stand a chance as constructed. Thompson and Sengun have had multiple yrs to get a decent shot and neither has happened. I've watched those teams all yr and the Rockets dont have any advantages except KD, that has to change. In 3 yrs, its over anyway, so no big deal.
     
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    Thats a 1 and done again
     
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    None of those lineups are close to the 2 in wcf. Hell, Denver is better
     
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    Ill take Mobley.

    Sengun is at his best when hes featured and hes not good enough to carry a team as a featured guy. Mobley is more in the Bari mold where he can bring a lot of value as a non featured player.
     
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    I think we actually need a KD in that scenario. Can't compete to win it all without a guy who can score 30 efficient points in the playoffs against a variety of defenses. Mobley and Amen do not have that quality, they would always need to be paired with a big scorer. Good news is we can finally hide a bad defender in this scenario so KD works great. KD/Amen/Mobley is a good trio for the next 2 years. What they need with them is a 2-way PG and wing. I like Jabari but he's not an irreplaceable player and not really needed in this scenario.
     
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    I think people saw that Wemby can only have like 3 great games out of 7 if he is fatigued and it is not difficult to tire him out.

    Wemby has to find ways to make easy buckets or one of Dylan and Castle has to make a jump to becoming a star or superstar.
     

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