Bigger Miss - Green over Mobley or Reed over Castle?

"there's no restrictions"

Let me guess, braindead Udoka benching him and storming onto the court for him shooting a 3 means nothing? Seems like it is a play the coach doesn't want Sengun to make, aka restricted.

Yet again @Stephen_A showing how stupid he is.

 

You didn’t do your homework again. Read previous posts above dumbass

 

@Downtown Sniper

Because you didn’t watch or understood anything here’s some context. If you played on the U16 team like you said you did then this concept of taking the right shot isn’t foreign to you


https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/cameras-catch-ime-udoka-going-111008529.html

 

The fact its 50/50 means he missed big time twice and should not have a job

 

Stone and the scouting team failed in that 2024 draft 100%

 

Really don’t get Rocket fans fascination with Mobley. By no means a dominant player or generational or franchise type guy. Solid player but not great. This playoffs is evidence of that. How is this man a max player?

 

I don’t think it’s so much overvaluing Mobley as it’s an indictment on Stone not doing a good evaluation of talent and the reputation of this organization to develop players properly.

Mobley is an integral part on a playoff team while Jalen isn’t even here anymore.

Plus from Stone’s track record, he may not have given Mobley the max.
And to be fair, Mobley’s dad was right to avoid Houston. His sons career is in a better place and they got max money.

 

That's what Jalen Green was supposed to be doing consistently

 

Jalen would have had that ball blocked and crumpled to the floor.

 

I don’t think Rockets fans would support 50 mil to a guy that can’t get 20 a game. Has issues on offense and doesn’t move any needle. A solid player with fundamentals yes but 50 mil for a guy that’s just solid? Rockets fans would once again yell fire stone if that happened.

Speaking of the cavs, how many of their lottery picks panned out? They had multiple picks for several years and traded all of them except for Mobley. (Sexton, Garland, Okoro). They went out and got stars (Mitchell, Harden) and vets (strus, Schroeder) because their draft picks were busts or not good enough. Did they rebuild after failed picks? No that’s crazy of course they didn’t and almost no teams do this. Rockets should follow this approach of obtaining dominant players to build on what we want to keep whether it’s Thompson or smith or Sheppard etc.

 

I wonder what a Castle Amen duo would look like. They may be the real terror twins and wreak havoc.

And I wonder if JG, Castle, Amen could work with Jabari and a defensive lob threat center. That’s an explosive fun team with defense and can get to the paint. Prob not championship level. JG would have to be replaced by a better 2 guard.

But still what could have been.

 

Mobley is not a star but a good solid player. Jalen is less than that as of now. (And doubt he will have the necessary IQ and mental maturity aspect to become a star).

Castle is ahead of reed as of now but in year 4-5 could be a different story. (Castle having higher floor but reed may have higher ceiling)

 

Sir, there will be no Vernon Maxwell slander in this establishment

 

I disagree. That lineup would be difficult to guard. 3 guys that could get to the paint any time they want and 3 playmakers. Castle could be the primary point playing off high screens with the center, Amen in dunker spot. Or screen and slips with Amen. If any of these guys get kickouts they would drive on hard closeouts on baseline or perimeter all day. Not to mention incredibly furious fast breaks. What could have been.

Stretch 5 could work I agree. They should still move JG for more efficient shooter and scorer but that lineup itself would be very fun to watch and hard to defend

 

They missed but they didn’t really miss.

Mobley’s fine but he’s not carrying the Cavs and certainly not $30M better than Jabari.

And Castle’s good but no shot as in zer0% percent he develops his shot here (in just the 2 short years the way he has in San Antonio). It’s a running joke, Houston is where shooters go to die.

And no, that’s not me coping, dismissing, downplaying them. They’re good players. Would they be good players here? Same players they are here? Or would we still be saying “We have no franchise player(s). Fire Stone!”

But you know what, maybe Evan Mobley & Vic Gumby were right when one refused to work out here and the other gave a good first pump when he learned he wasn’t coming to Houston.

Spoiler

1st round picks
2026: Traded for Russell Westbrook
2025: Traded for Kevin Durant
2024: 1-3 Reed Sheppard; traded for Russell Westbrook
2023: 1-4 Amen Thompson; 1-20 Cam Whitmore
2022: 1-3 Jabari Smith Jr.; 1-17 Tari Eason; 1-29 TyTy Washington Jr.
2021: 1-2 Jalen Green; 1-16 Alperen Sengun; 1-23 Usman Garuba; 1-24 Josh Christopher
2020: Traded for Robert Covington
2019: Traded for Iman Shumpert
2018: Traded for Chris Paul
2017: Traded for Lou Williams
2016: Traded for Ty Lawson
2015: 1-18 Sam Dekker; traded to dump Jeremy Lin
2014: 1-25 Clint Capela; traded for James Harden
2013: Traded for James Harden; traded for Terrence Williams
2012: 1-12 Jeremy Lamb; 1-16 Royce White; 1-18 Terrence Jones
2011: 1-14 Marcus Morris; 1-20 Donatas Motiejunas
2010: 1-14 Patrick Patterson
2009: Traded for Ron Artest
2008: 1-28 Donte Greene
2007: 1-26 Aaron Brooks
2006: Traded for Shane Battier
2005: 1-24 Luther Head
2004: Traded for John Amaechi
2003: Traded for Steve Francis
2002: 1-1 Yao Ming; 1-15 Boki Nachbar
2001: 1-7 Eddie Griffin
2000: 1-15 Jason Collier

Don’t really care about these, traded like candy; mostly misses, some “hits”, some developed elsewhere

2nd round picks
2026: 2-39; 2-53
2025: Traded for Steven Adams; traded for Dillon Brooks; traded for Kevin Durant
2024: Traded for Steven Adams; traded for Dillon Brooks; traded for A.J. Griffin
2023: Traded to Indiana w/ Caris LeVert in Harden deal
2022: Traded for Iman Shumpert
2021: Traded for K.J. Martin Jr.; traded for cash considerations
2020: 2-52 Kenyon “K.J.” Martin Jr.
2019: traded for Pablo Prigioni
2018: 2-46 De’Anthony Melton; 2-52 Vincent Ewards; traded for Shawn Long
2017: 2-43 Isaiah Hartenstein; traded for Pablo Prigioni; traded for a future 2nd
2016: 2-37 Chinanu Onuaku; 2-43 Zhou Qi
2015: 2-32 Montrezl Harrell; traded for Corey Brewer; traded for K.J. McDaniels
2014: 2-42 Nick Johnson; 2-53 Alessandro Gentile; traded for 12th pick in 2012 draft
2013: 2-34 Isaiah Canaan; traded for James Harden
2012: Traded for Marcus Camby; traded for Chase Budinger
2011: 2-38 Chandler Parsons
2010: Traded for Gerald Green
2009: 2-32 Jermaine Taylor; 2-34 Sergio Llull; 2-44 Chase Budinger; traded for Luis Scola & Jackie Butler
2008: 2-33 Joey Dorsey; 2-54 Maarty Leunen
2007: 2-31 Carl Landry; 2-54 Brad Newley; traded for Mike James & Zendon Hamilton
2006: 2-32 Steve Novak; 2-44 Lior Eliyahu; traded for Mike James & Zendon Hamilton; traded for John Amaechi
2005: traded for hiring JVG
2004: 2-50 Vassilis Spanoulis
2003: 2-44 Malick Badiane
2002: 2-38 Tito Maddox; traded for Kevin Willis
2001: traded for Dan Langhi
2000: 2-31 Dan Langhi; traded for Scottie Pippen

They call Houston a transplant city. We are also a transplant basketball team.

Traded for James Harden
Traded for Kevin Durant
Traded for Chris Paul
Traded for Russell Westbrook
Traded for Tracy McGrady
Traded for Ron Artest
Traded for Ty Lawson
Signed Dwight Howard
Traded for Clyde Drexler (OK, beyond my “2000 limit” but still)
Traded for Charles Barkley
Traded for Otis Thorpe
Traded for Moses Malone
Signed/Traded for Scottie Pippen

 

Mobley didn’t work out for any teams and reportedly wanted to go to OKC. That didn’t happen and he sucked it up and played for Cavs. If Rockets drafted him it doesn’t mean he wouldn’t play for us. Jabari only worked out for OKC and Orlando. Likewise Jalen only worked out for Detroit and Hou.

https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/onsi/news/nba-insider-reports-evan-mobley-wanted-land-okc-thunder

https://apnews.com/article/sports-n...-evan-mobley-04b79ae523e899da099f3b29ceb11231

https://www.si.com/nba/rockets/onsi...ari-smith-orlando-paolo-banchero-rafael-stone

 

I don’t think Mobley is worth 50m, but I do think he is a better fit than Sengun on this team. I would trade Sengun and Reed for him in a second, but Cleveland wouldn’t do it.