1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  1. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    CVS not cab
     
  2. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    Damn spell check cba
     
  3. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,092
    Likes Received:
    16,837
    wait for the buyout.

    Whether or not you would consider giving up Sengun for AD is a litmus test. The only way I'd trade Sengun for AD is if Cameron Boozer, AJ Dybantsa or Darryn Peterson were also involved in that trade.

    Mobley, Chet, Paolo.

    Those are the three guys (non superstars) I would say you could realistically get in a Sengun centered trade that wouldn't affect a timeline that have 1 to 1 or close to 1 to 1 value. If the Rockets can get one of those three, trade Sengun. If the Rockets decide to trade for a superstar, trade Sengun. If the Rockets are presented with an offer involving a blue chip asset and 4 FRP, trade Sengun.

    Otherwise, maybe hold onto the 23 year old two time all star who has shown flashes of being a franchise level player and has shown flashes of being less than an all star. If Sengun was consistent at his highs, he'd be a top 15 player right now. Even with inconsistency, he's likely top 30 RIGHT NOW by any metric. He's not James Harden MVP level player but he's also not Kevin Martin as a Rocket. He's a young all star with upside. Even if he plateaus he's worth more than a broken Anthony Davis.

    The Rockets don't have a clear blue superstar (other than KD) on the roster and it appears as if they are ready to put that onus on Amen Thompson. They do have an objective all star on the roster who is under the age of 25. Maybe only trade said all star for something that improves the Rockets.
     
    #43 treyk3, Jun 8, 2026 at 12:53 PM
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2026 at 1:00 PM
  4. Rivaldo2181

    Rivaldo2181 Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2003
    Messages:
    2,538
    Likes Received:
    338
    No thanks. Mr glass is not worth it
     
  5. cml750

    cml750 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,226
    Likes Received:
    6,559
    No thank you! Get rid of the cancer, aka Dickerson, hire a coach to coach both ends of the court, run it back minus cancer, and let our young guys reach their prime! Then we can sort out if we need to make any major moves and who is expendable.
     
    DaDakota and BigShasta like this.
  6. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    I’m ok with this. I would see what we could get for Sengun, but wouldn’t sell him for peanuts. Ime and KD are the 2 biggest issues on this team.
     
  7. krosfyah

    krosfyah Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    8,134
    Likes Received:
    1,948
    I would not say KD is an "issue". The dude balled out. IMO, 90% of the problem with KD is cause Ime relied on him to be a primary ball hander.
     
    Plowman and TEXNIFICENT like this.
  8. krosfyah

    krosfyah Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    8,134
    Likes Received:
    1,948
    Ime is signed for 5 more years. The coaching situation is what it is.

    RE: the young guys, I think we all know what we've got. None of them are your A1 player on a championship team. Several are starters on a championship roster but you don't have a Jokic, Wemby, SGA, ANT, or even a Bruson.

    On the bright side, as of right now, you do have KD for another year who IS playing like an alpha. So the ONLY part of your statement that I agree with is they should "run it back" and make some tweaks.

    But if you can add AD for cheap without giving up picks, I'm for it. I like Bari but he's vanilla ice cream. If he can get is 3P% up to 45%, then he's perfect for this team but I don't see that happening.
     
  9. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    20,885
    Likes Received:
    16,387
    I wonder if we can bring back Hakeem, Charles, and Scottie for one last ride.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    21,658
    Likes Received:
    14,072
    Ime is signed for five more years.

    [​IMG]
    I checked. It is true.
    And Fertitta is supposed to be good with money?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    I could buy Mobley and maybe Chet, because of fit, but Paolo? Every issue you have with Sengun, you have with Paolo. Exploring trades for Sengun is fine, but it;s not worth it if it doesn’t net you a good young player that fits or a top 3 pick in this draft. If it nets you 2 good young players and a top 10 pick in this draft (Okongwu, NaW, Atlanta’s 8th pick in 26) it should be considered.
     
  12. krosfyah

    krosfyah Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    8,134
    Likes Received:
    1,948
    Yea. Almost as bad as the Kelvin Cato signing. Ime had one good season. Good news is coaching salary doesn't impact the cap so he can be fired anytime.
     
  13. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    I’ll butt in here a bit. AD is playing like an Alpha, when it comes to shooting. No other aspect of his game is he playing like a superstar. How he plays on offense for this team is not all on Ime. KD wants to play ISO ball from the top or on the wing and he wants to spam 2 pointers. People calling him a spacer are only looking at his shooting percentages and saying that should provide space. It is not his fault that he likes the ball in the same area of the court that Sengun and Amen, but he is pretty damn insistent on it. That is why he is a bad fit offfensively. It’s Ime’s fault for not being able to adjust offensive schemes to fit the personnel, but that does not exempt your so-called Alpha from responsibility. The fact that he wants the ball in his hands, but is sh*t at handling double teams is on KD as well as Ime.

    I can’t stand it when fans declare emphatically that we don’t have an A1 when our best players are 22 years old. Other than Wemby, who is unique in the history of the NBA, those other guys are in their prime and in the case of Jokic probably declining a bit. Amen is a jumper from 15 feet and a shoulder bump fade away from being SGA level on offense and a much better defender. Sengun with a 3 pointer is not Jokic (who has ever been?), but he is closer than most. I don’t think Jabari has A1 potential, but he could certainly surprise as a super role player. Denver doesn’t win a championship without Gordon at PF. KD does not get us closer to being able to compete with OKC, SA, and probably LAL in the next 2 years, so what is the point of keeping him? Regular season wins, I suppose. He is a positive asset in trade scenarios and that should be his sole purpose for the Rockets going forward.
     
    DaDakota likes this.
  14. carlos

    carlos Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 1999
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    89
    Only if the goal is to prop up the Houston Medical district.
     
  15. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    60,705
    Likes Received:
    55,565
    Let's bring in Nico and AD and complete the process.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Arrest all Pedophiles
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    133,736
    Likes Received:
    45,920
    KD is not playing like an alpha @krosfyah not even close.

    He stands in one area wanting to Iso, never screens, never moves off the ball and on D, he never rotates over.

    KD is all about himself....not winning.

    DD
     
    cml750 likes this.
  17. cml750

    cml750 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,226
    Likes Received:
    6,559
    Anyone who thinks KD is playing like an Alpha is reading box scores rather than watching the games. He only cares bout getting his. He could of fit right in perfectly if he would give up the ISO's and just be available to hit open shots on passes from Alpi, Amen, & Reed. He should be a play finisher when open rather than the initiator. He probably would of scored close to the same with even better shooting percentages if he played correctly. Of course it would have been up to our offensively inept coach to change that.
     
  18. Rokman

    Rokman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,247
    Likes Received:
    9,189
    With our luck we'd get the next Gregg Oden.
     
    Dobbizzle and Plowman like this.
  19. Evans32

    Evans32 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2020
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    56
    I think if Kyshawn George and Bilal Coulibaly is added to the deal I’m down for an AD trade. The rockets get 2 young players and AD/KD are all on a 2 year timeline with their contracts. Amen and Reed have space to operate also, No picks involved in this deal! I want to keep Adams but i don’t think it’s possible

    Wiz: Sengun, DFS, Capela
    Rockets: AD, Kyshawn George, Bilal Coulibaly

    FVV/ Reed
    Amen/ Kyshawn George
    KD/ Bilal Coulibaly
    Smith Jr/???
    AD/???

    Wizards lineup:
    Trae Young/ Bub Carrington
    DFS/ Tre Johnson
    AJ/ Cam Whitmore
    Sengun
    Sarr/ Capela
     
    hlmbasketball likes this.
  20. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    14,625
    Likes Received:
    18,932
    The only thing I don’t like about it is I think we can get a better return. 2 young players and a 26 draft pick would be my goal.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now