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Terrorist Welfare - Trump gives YOUR Tax $$$ to J6 Terrorists

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  1. juicystream

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    He won't, but the legacy could live on. Who successfully imitates him? Will someone push it even farther? Will there be escalating retribution between the parties?

    I generally assume Trump will be left in the dust before his term even ends, much like W, but you just never know.
     
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    Politics is still a cult of personality. I got the concern but duplicating Trump starts with his cult leader type grip on what people do.

    He is a phenomenon regardless of his ethics and average at best average intelligence. There is not another leader period in either party in the foreseeable future
     
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    The door has been opened. People across the political spectrum have seen that it is very possible to do terrible things and either gas light the public or get them to not care. That isn’t going away unless the US people culturally change and demand accountability.

    I remember being like 13-14 years old and having a Rice professor that my father was friends with discussing the Presidencies of Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton emerging. Discussing NAFTA he said that it would fundamentally change the world and our values in the USA. He didn’t say good or bad, said he didn’t know but the outcome would be discussed in colleges in 75 years…. I remember GWB and the rough shot expansion of executive power and the knowledge learned that you can distract Americans with war.

    This is no different - just a larger difference. Someone that has the balls of Trump, the charisma - but younger and smarter, will come around and attempt to push what Trump did to the next few levels.

    Very possible it is from the left - people are figuring out that billionaires are acting like parasites. Far easier for the left to attack them than the right.

    The US quality of political rulers has been going down for as long as I have been alive. They compensate by just creating a false reality and sell it to the masses…. Who are forgiving like a frog in a pot with the temperature going up a few degrees at a time.
     
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  4. Nook

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    Charisma is a massive help - but historically there have been leaders with less charisma take control and rule countries. Many times these leaders follow more charismatic leaders that started the process but died… the new less charismatic rules often are amazing at organization and forming alliances and neutering their enemies.

    Franco in Spain comes to mind- Maduro in Venezuela is another that quickly acted to overcome a lack of charisma. Papa Doc in Haiti and others.
     
  5. Reeko

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    atp, you have a better chance leaving your kid alone with a Catholic priest than with a MAGA

    MAGAs stay away from children challenge: difficulty level impossible
     
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    This train ain't ever late.
    Democrats think they can earn some good will with the Repubs
    and the Repubs spit in their face
    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
    Democrats are truly ?DUMBoCrats too often
     
  7. jo mama

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    many forget how quickly W went from beloved to despised by his base. it was the last 2 years of his term, but they really turned on him in the last few months.

    look at him now. the vast majority of the people who voted for and supported him are now trumpers and want to pretend like they never supported the guy or the iraq war.

    he will always have 1/3 of the country drinking the kool-aid, but the longer trump sticks around the more people will hate him.

    and when he goes there is going to be so much infighting and no clear leader to take over the cult. look at all the infighting now. roy vs "maga" mayes. they cant kiss trumps ass enough. and trump has trashed cornyn in the last week and cornyn is still running ads about how they work together and how much trump likes him. vance and rubio will turn on each other and dont forget about lyin' ted. he was scared to run for president in 2024 because he didnt want to go against trump, but no question he will run in 2028.
     
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    All 3 of those guys are cowards who will kiss Trump's butt, and selectively erase all memories of their past feelings about him. They've become the hypocrites and liars, and will all selectively erase their butt kissing support of Trump again, if they run for President. They sit back and watch him make terrible decisions, spew conspiracies and lies, all while enriching himself and his family businesses, and do nothing to stop it. That's who they are. They have no ethics or integrity. They are useless, lying lapdogs, who have deciding that lying and spreading conspiracies serves them best.
     
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    there really needs to be a conversation about this MAGA pedophile pandemic, because this is getting ridiculous

    there’s more every single day
     
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  10. deb4rockets

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    Good grief. How many child molesters and pedos were there in that group of insurrectionists?
     
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  11. Reeko

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    all the degenerates and dregs of society flocked to DC that day or supported it

    How are these the people always talking about “protect the children?” Meanwhile they’re the ones preying on them 24/7
     
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    Lots.
     
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    What if Jan 6 was never about the election, it was just a large scale Chris Hansen setup to catch all the pedophiles...?

    mind blown.
     
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    these are the devils they want my tax dollars to be sent to so these criminals and child diddlers can get reparations
     
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    Listen to this BS.....


     
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    Sex Crimes with children:
    Illegal Immigrants: .0165 per 260
    General population: .04 per 260
    January 6-ers: 1 per 260
     
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    I'd love to see a reporter with some balls state those facts with Trump and hear his response.
     
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    Judge halts Trump ‘anti-weaponization’ fund after Jan. 6 prosecutor files suit

    A federal judge has temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s $1.8 billion “anti-weaponization fund,” created as part of an unprecedented settlement with the president, his family and the Trump Org.

    U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema of the Eastern District of Virginia entered the order on Friday after a Jan. 6 prosecutor and others sued to block the fund last week.


    The fund is being operated out of the Justice Department, which didn’t immediately comment on the order.

    Both Democrats and Republicans have criticized the fund. Opponents have labeled it a massive “slush fund” for Trump’s allies. Its existence has alarmed some legal experts, in part because there will be very little public oversight over how it is managed. Senate Republican leaders last week punted a vote on a GOP package to fund ICE and the Border Patrol until June in part because of concerns over the fund, NBC News reported.

    The Trump administration can not take any further action on the fund while legal motions are pending, “which includes the transferring of money to the fund; the consideration of any claims submitted to the fund; and the disbursing of any funds from the fund,” according to the order.

    The judge said the order was necessary to “ensure that no funds are irreversibly disbursed from the ‘Anti-Weaponization Fund’ while their are motions pending to block the distribution of funds.

    The process to apply for money can’t officially begin until five commissioners are chosen to decide how the money is doled out, though people who claim they were targeted by the government have already requested money. The White House referred questions to DOJ.

    It’s also not clear how people would formally apply. The pool of possible applicants is substantial, according to DOJ.

    Andrew Floyd, who headed a task force in the now-closed Capitol Siege Section of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, before he was dismissed in July, filed a declaration in connection with the lawsuit on Thursday.

    The Trump administration “is gifting the people I helped investigate and prosecute after January 6” access to what he describes as an illegally created process designed to “rush money out the door to perceived political allies, while treating me and people like me as disfavored enemies.”

    Describing the firing of dozens of law enforcement officials as “appalling,” he writes that no president should be able to abuse their authority to target those who did their jobs.

    “The president’s targeting of me and others involved in January 6 prosecutions leaves our country in a very dark place, sending a message that insurrection and sedition will be protected (and even encouraged) as long as it is on behalf of this administration,” Floyd wrote.

    The fund is facing other lawsuits in Washington.

    Trump mass pardoned roughly 1,500 Jan. 6 defendants on his first day back in office last January. Last week, the Trump administration began erasing press releases about Jan. 6 prosecutions from the Justice Department’s website, which they described as “partisan propaganda.”

    “We will do everything in our power to make whole those who were persecuted for political purposes,” read a statement posted from a Justice Department social media account.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...n-fund-jan-6-prosecutor-files-suit-rcna347539
     
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  19. durvasa

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    I wonder how much of that, assuming numbers are accurate, can be explained by the demographics of each group (age and sex).
     
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    The Trump administration plans to drop its controversial $1.8 billion "weaponization" fund the president sought to compensate alleged victims of prosecutorial misconduct under the Biden administration, two senior administration officials told Axios.

    • "It's dead for now," one of the sources said.
    Why it matters: Bashed as a political slush fund that could be tapped by those convicted in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, Trump's proposal has drawn bipartisan pushback in the GOP-led House and Senate.


    Zoom in: The plan for the fund came about as part of a settlement between Trump and the Internal Revenue Service.

    • Trump and his business had sued the IRS for $10 billion over the leak of his 2019 and 2020 tax returns by a former contractor.
    • Last month, they reached a settlement in which Trump dropped the lawsuit in exchange for a $1.8 billion "anti-weaponization" fund for government abuse claims for his administration to use with virtually no oversight.
    • The settlement also included broad immunity for Trump from IRS audits.
    • The plan was widely criticized on Capitol Hill, drawing backlash even from some Republicans loyal to the president. House Speaker Mike Johnson planned to raise the issue of the fund in a White House meeting with Trump, two sources said.
    Driving the news: White House discussions about dropping the fund came after two federal judges weighed in against the fund on Friday.

    • U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkemaof the Eastern District of Virginia halted the disbursement of money from it.
    • U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams in the Southern District of Florida announced she would launch an inquiry.
    • Williams was the judge in charge of the original lawsuit Trump and the Trump Organization brought against the IRS for the unauthorized disclosure of tax information.





    What they're saying: "We're planning to respect the courts," one of the administration officials said.

    • "This has become a distraction," a second administration official said. "The president believes government was weaponized against people — it wasn't just him. But this isn't the time and vehicle for it."
    • After this story was initially published, the Justice Department posted a statement on X that complained about the Virginia court ruling but said: "The department will abide by the court's ruling."
    The intrigue: Administration officials differ on whether White House staff members were kept abreast of the fund's creation.

    • One source said senior administration officials were included in the discussions between the president's legal team and the Justice Department, which set up the fund.
    • "That's not true," a senior administration official told Axios. "The West Wing got blindsided."
     

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