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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. treyk3

    treyk3 Member

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    how disingenuous. I didn't mean a positive plus or minus, i meant he had a positive impact on the court subjectively.

    IF you want to go +/- maybe go back all the way to 2 games ago and start at the beginning of the playoffs.

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/stephon-castle-career-playoff-stats

    + in every game last series.
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Whatever, most of Sheppard’s weaknesses would be gone if he were playing with Wemby:

    - Defensively he can funnel people to the future best shot blocker in NBA history
    - Offensively getting to the rim becomes a walk in the park because there aren’t 25 people standing in the paint to grab an offensive rebound

    You want to see Castle try to not turn it over or try to finish at the rim with Sengun, Amen and both their defenders standing in the paint? He would be lower efficiency, higher turnovers and lesser defense here. He would not even have the strength to power through at times as Amen does.

    This board needs to grow up from thinking you can just plop a guy out there and expect optimal production from them regardless of the other 4 guys. This is not tennis. It’s basketball, it’s a team sport.
     
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  3. albuster

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    If Castle played under Ime, he would not have been given much playing time and he would have been yanked in and out like a yoyo with his kind of shooting and turnovers. He was given the best opportunities under the Spurs organization with a lot of playing time even when he was floundering as a rookie. Reed has not been given similar opportunities, and moreover, they have different roles assigned to them. I agree with the other posters that Reed would not be exposed so much on defense if he were playing with Wemby or even Goebert in Minny. Let's see what happens next season and accept that Castle is not here and Reed is. A different coach would have resulted in a different outcome. But the Rockets are what they are.
     
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  4. astrosrule

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    He actually has a -9 on/off for the playoffs this year, their offense and defense have both been way better when he has been on the bench. Obviously it’s a small sample and obviously nothing can change your subjective opinion, but that’s the actual reality of what has happened.
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    Some of the spurs fans in this thread are insufferable

    if you guys want to bump this every time castle has a meal or take a dump go to spurs talk
     
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  6. treyk3

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    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/stephon-castle-plus-minus-playoff-stats

    +83 plus minus

    I misread what you meant, all I’m finding with -9 is his on/off offensive rating.

    Spurs are a +157 for the playoffs, they won his off court minutes by 74. That included a 40 point blowout.
     
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    What's truly absurd is that he's been killing his team the last 2 games and they are still on their knees blowing him here. It's outright hilarious.
     
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    Sucks Reed is going to be compared to Castle and picked apart in that manner.

    I am optismtic Reed is a NBA rotation player at the very least and still has great potential as an elite shooter. He got his feet wet his rookie year, came back a bit stronger and better in the offseason to earn his rotation minutes in his sophomore season. He will again come back stronger from the offseason but he really needs to look at the tape and see all the shots he should have taken and taking more of them his 3rd season.
     
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    It'll be a favorable comparison for Sheppard. Even now, the Spurs 100% win the championship this season if the Rockets blew the pick on Castle instead of taking Sheppard.

    Instead Castle is breaking records for turnovers.
     
  11. shakes05

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    Naw bro, if we drafted Castle the KD trade would've looked totally different meaning we could've traded FVV instead of Jalen Green. Our roster construction would've looked better:
    Sengun
    Jabari
    KD
    Green
    If Cam was healthy, he definitely could've helped...Tate and DFS were a waste of a rotational spot...I'll trade those 2nd round picks back to Washington for Cam, lol
     
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  12. shakes05

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    Spurs would be down 0-2 if they had Reed.
    Yeah, those turnovers by Castle are inexcusable. However, if Reed was on the Spurs in this matchup against OKC his a$$ would be hunted on defense like Harden got hunted by Brunson. Reed would be a liability just like he was this year when he's not making his shot.
    Castle was making life difficult for Shai in games 1 and 2...he only made 2 three pointers thus far in the first 2 games, but he's impacting the game in many ways by driving to the basket and playing elite defense.
    Castle > Reed
    The END
     
  13. Aruba77

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    you honestly think Stone and Ime are trading FVV? Ah no. There is virtually no scenario they trade Fred last offseason.
     
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    Lol, that's just stupid.

    If the Spurs had Reed instead of Wemby they'd be able to space the floor much better, wouldn't be turning the ball over and Sheppard's defense likely would be better than Castle's who has been a traffic cone.

    Castle is by far the greatest weakness the Spurs have and OKC has absolutely been exploiting it.
     
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    I can’t go through all 665 pages of this.

    The only thing I can say in my opinion, is that we aren’t in a position to make rash decisions due to a closing title window.

    If we had multiple stars in their lower 30’s, and I mean true stars, then I’d be fine shipping off some of the younger guys if it got us a title, including Reed.

    As of now, I think there’s only two real options. You keep this young core together for another year -at least-, and hope that some of them show something that’s been hiding in a broken system.

    Or, you pick a few of your favorites, and trade the rest to basically restart the rebuild with a few solid young pieces already, trade into the 2026 draft if you believe there’s franchise changing players, and also use the 2027 pick to boost that (unless it’s used to get a high 2026 pick)

    The last and absolute last thing I want the team to do is trade Sengun/another young piece for Giannis. If those guys are to be traded, it needs to be for players that can fit in a shorter rebuild, not chase a WCF exit.

    So the TLDR, keep Reed, see if he can develop a more consistent 3, and an ability to create his own shot (which he’s shown signs of). Only trade him if it’s for a high pick (part of a deal obviously) for an extremely high pick in the 2026 draft. We don’t have to rush things atm. We aren’t in a title window
     
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  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    Bro this is straight stupid no offense

    Castle would be significantly worse if the rockets drafted him

    reed would be better if the spurs drafted him

    this is pretty much common sense and has the backing of like the last 20 years of the respective teams player development.
     
  17. treyk3

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    Reed was my pick at the time. I’m not a professional scout or involved in a front office. This team has done 0 favors for any of our picks between the Silas no structure era to Ime the nothing but rigid structure guy. I am not sure how Castle would look here or Reed would look there but it does pain me to see my favorite team in such a bad spot.
     
  18. shakes05

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    You probably watch 0 Spurs games or any other basketball games outside of the Rockets. Either you just watch the box score and not the game or you on the spectrum...every true hooper knows Castle is better than Reed.
    I'm not knocking Reed at all, he's gonna be in the NBA for a very long time.
    However, Castle will have a better NBA career than Reed and we missed on that pick like Stone is accustomed of doing.
    Arguably, Castle is on the same level as Amen and even surpassing him from a progression standpoint and it's only year 2 for Castle.
     
  19. shakes05

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    Castle is getting buckets and defending the opponents' best perimeter player
    Who was Reed locking down???
    Smart was cooking him
    Kennard was cooking him
    They put Reed on Rui to get him from standing in the corner to shoot 3s and still got cooked
    Like I've been saying, if Reed isn't knocking down his shots, he's a liability
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Arrest all Pedophiles
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    Bunch of you sinners in here coveting the neighbors wife.

    DD
     

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