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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. HTM

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    Just blockade Iran until their economy and society collapses.
    Quick way to incentivize the formation of a coalition to destroy your regime.
     
  2. astros123

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    This dude said a couple of weeks ago that Iran was on the verge of collapse any day and they were begging for a deal lol. It blows my mind how these cultist can be wrong time after time yet show no humility.

    Their entire mission in life is to rehab their cult leader no matter what he does
     
  3. astros123

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    LOL don't forget it was Israeli Intel that told Trump if you killed the ayatollah the entire regime would collapse and you'd have regime change. The CIA/NSA/Pentagon told Trump the polar opposite but Trump believed in Israeli Intel over his own Intel which is why he started this war

    MAGA lie so much that you think they're being paid
     
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  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    When you’re in a cult like @HTM you’ll justify anything. He could go in and violate his mom and dude would say she was getting an exam
     
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    Depends on if Trump finishes the war.
     
  6. Amiga

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    Wait, what? This was their regime change plan….?


    NYT:

    Days after Israeli strikes killed Iran’s supreme leader and other top officials in the opening salvos of the war, President Trump mused publicly that it would be best if “someone from within” Iran took over the country.

    It turns out that the United States and Israel went into the conflict with a particular and very surprising someone in mind: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former Iranian president known for his hard-line, anti-Israel and anti-American views.

    But the audacious plan, developed by the Israelis and which Mr. Ahmadinejad had been consulted about, quickly went awry, according to the U.S. officials who were briefed on it.

    Mr. Ahmadinejad was injured on the war’s first day by an Israeli strike at his home in Tehran that had been designed to free him from house arrest, the American officials and an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad said. He survived the strike, they said, but after the near miss he became disillusioned with the regime change plan.

     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    History is wrriten by...

    yes I think we all know what they are trying to do
     
  8. deb4rockets

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    Trump begs for funding a billion dollar ballroom, with drone proof bunker and hospital type medical facility underneath, and brags non-stop about his reflecting pool, gold curtains, and vanity projects.

    All while while soldiers in a war zone under a tin roof are told not to worry about protection.

    Just disgusting.


    Troops say Army ignored request for more medical support before deadly attack on Kuwait base

    A U.S. Army unit asked to bulk up medical support weeks before a fatal Iranian strike on their command post in Kuwait, but they were ignored, soldiers told CBS News.

    "This was a failure," Major Stephen Ramsbottom said in an interview with CBS News. He said he believed Master Sergeant Nicole Amor could have survived her wounds had there been a doctor, a fixed aid station or more than one ambulance at the post.

    "She could have been saved," he said. "She fought the whole way and was trying to stay alive."

    "We didn't have any training," Carrier told CBS News. Like Ramsbottom, she described a chaotic scene after the blast where soldiers had to commandeer civilian passenger vans and scramble to find a local Kuwaiti hospital to treat the wounded.

    "There was really nothing in place for something like that to happen," she said.

    U.S. intelligence warned as early as January that Iran would attack the post, multiple sources told CBS News. Ramsbottom, a career soldier with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, said he raised concerns over safety to his senior leadership.

    At operations and intelligence meetings starting about two weeks before the strike, the soldiers began asking for more drone defense.

    "We were told: Don't worry about protection," he said.

    The day after the attack, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth described the Iranian drone as a "squirter" — in that it squirted through the defenses of a fortified unit inside Kuwait.

    But Ramsbottom is one of several survivors who disputed Hegseth's description.

    "We had no overhead protection to keep anything from falling on us," Ramsbottom said. "We had a tin roof. That's all we had."


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/troops-army-medical-support-iran-kuwait-attack/
     
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  9. Kemahkeith

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    I suspect bombing will start again tonight.
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    Well you know Netaynhu wants nothing less.
     
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  13. deb4rockets

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    What's Trump gonna do now? Will he do what Putin and Xi want, and stop the attacks and end the war, or what Netaynhu wants, and reign death and destruction across Iran?

    Time to pick a side. He obviously never cared about what Americans wanted, but then again, Putin has always been the one he is most loyal to.
     
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    He’ll do something to distract from the 1.7 billion dollar theft of us taxpayers so yeah probably likely. I think if he does it though he’ll claim victory and demand our feckless media stop asking him about it when it’s obviously worse in the Middle East after we leave.

    Certainly looks like Trump is gearing up to go take Castro and do a mini war with Cuba sooner than later. Probably next 60 days so makes sense for him in his pea brain to do one big bombing campaign on Iran, get out a couple days after and then re-deploy assets to the Caribbean in a few weeks to start the operation in Cuba… aka Little Marco’s wet dream.
     
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    Never in a million years would I have predicted Iran would win in a conflict against the US.

    They have rebuilt their busted infrastructure, are making more drones and missiles before. They own the strait. They’re selling oil for billion dollars a tanker and are taxing the rest.

    Their dying ayatollah was replaced with the son.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/iran-military-rebuild

    Their economy is still dying and their government is autocratic. But in this era who’s not seeing this. Even our economy is suffering and our government is autocratic.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    "Behind us in this war" huh. Is that why Saudi Arabia explicitly stated they will not permit their airspace or territory to be used for any military actions against Iran?

    They weren't even consulted before it started, they're livid about the damage it's caused them, and the POTUS has repeatedly said he TACO'd because they told him to stop the bombing. Now THAT tells us something.
     
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  18. rockbox

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    This Iran issue is costing SA so much money. They may have been for it initially until Iran starting attacking Saudi infrastructure.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    Didn't Trump TACO on Tuesday -- actually previewed the TACO on Monday -- because we were going to have a peace deal? Its Thursday now, afternoon in Iran. We didn't even know Trump was planning to restart his illegal war until he TACOed. Did he just embarrass himself for nothing?
     
  20. Amiga

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    They consistently pushed for a political solution and even voiced objection to last year's bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities. Probably why the US didn't even consult with them - the Saudis would have pushed back.
     
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