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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Honestly I never really pay any attention to political ads. People can't see what's happening in this country with their own eyes? Don't they see what chaos and destruction he's causing around the world from his power mongering, bullying, threats, greed, and dangerously destructive actions? Are they living off the grid with no access to tv, internet, or mobile service? It just makes no sense.

    I mean what in the hell does it take for people to realize Trump's a lying con, obsessed with surrounding himself in gold, bragging about all his golf courses and properties, reaping in billions, while asking them to just be patient, and everything will get better? How stupid can you be? Too lazy to fact check his lies? Too stubborn to admit he conned them?

    Sure, Democrats need to keep fighting him in the courts, in Congress, and in the Senate. If Republicans had one shred of courage or integrity they wouldn't bend a knee to him over and over and over. They are lapdogs, wagging their tails to a psycho that really doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything other than himself, his image, and his legacy. Cowards. That's all they are. It's disgusting. None of those bootlickers deserve to call themselves Patriots. They put Trump before the people, Trump before the law, and bend a knee to him, because they haven't got the guts to do the right thing.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if we just start bombing tomorrow, and this whole new negotiation deal is a farce.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Nothing surprises me except the price tag at the pump these days.
     
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    The only thing that would surprise me is if they actually did something smart or with some sort of moral compass.
     
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    In the midst of an unfinished war in Iran,

    the half-azzed Sec of War, Hegseth goes to Kentucky to campaign against Massie


    Trump's DUI-hire rationalizes that his presence at a campaign event was done in a “personal capacity as a private citizen”
    rather than as an administration official, there is no known precedent for a sitting secretary of defense to campaign for a congressional candidate.

    what an admission!

    in the midst of an unfinished war, the DUI-hire takes a personal leave !​
     
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  6. Amiga

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    No.

    You are just making BS up.

    The fact is the deal had inspections and verification in place. They certified Iran was complying. The US Intel, IAEA, UK, France, and Germany all assessed that Iran was complying. You ignore this because you have zero understanding of how any of this works and you just trust whatever Trump did. Heck, even Israel PM acknowledged that Iran was complying. And their most senior defense officials and Israeli security experts said that they and US made a major mistake by killing the deal.

    The fact is that Iran didn't enrich to near weapons grade until the deal was axed by Trump. The same inspections and verification confirmed it (yes, some of it continued after the deal was axed, but once axed, Iran was no longer constrained by the limits).

    You stubbornly believe BS and Trump over real verification and basic facts. As I said, you care more about what Trump did than about Iran not having a pathway to a bomb. That's the only rational explanation for you to stick to the BS.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    Yes I believe in USA, Israeli intelligence.
    Hopefully this happens, we need to knock out their power and destroy Kharg island, maybe then they will realize we aren't messing around when they're starving to death and broke. This is how you win this war. War isn't pretty especially when winning id your 1st and foremost objective.
     
  8. No Worries

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    You are a fool to believe in Israeli intelligence.
     
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    Bobby Ghosh writes for his “Ghoshworld” Substack that while Iran is seeking to charge “marine insurance” to shipstraveling through the Strait of Hormuz, the world may have other plans.

    “On Monday, Iran’s Ministry of Economy launched a website called Hormuz Safe. It will sell, in Bitcoin, marine insurance to vessels seeking to transit the Strait of Hormuz. The same day, Tehran activated its Persian Gulf Strait Authority to issue the underlying passage permits. J.P. Morgan, in its latest Eye on the Market energy paper, has estimated that a fully operational Iranian toll regime could earn $70 to $90 billion a year.

    The closure of the Strait, in Tehran’s plan, is no longer a temporary act of war. It is the beginning of a permanent revenue stream and a permanent claim of sovereignty over the most important oil chokepoint on the planet.

    The pitch is aimed less at shipping companies than at the Trump administration, the Gulf monarchies and governments of countries that get their hydrocarbons through the Strait: Tehran wants them all to accept that this is the new normal. “We own the Strait now,” it is saying. “The world will pay.”
     
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  10. Buck Turgidson

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    You think his buddies ever call him "baba ghanoush" for fun?
     
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  11. JuanValdez

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    Enforcement of the HATCH Act can be recommended by the Merit Systems Protection Board for presidential appointees, but it is up to the President whether to enforce (for career staff, the Board disciplines them routinely). This seems like a structural mistake. HATCH act violations for appointed officials should trigger a recommendation by the MSPB to the House for impeachment. In this case, of course it would make no difference because Republicans control the House. But, the HATCH Act would be slightly less useless.

    If you're struggling with what to talk about at your next cocktail party: the MSPB is a board with 3 members appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. By law, the board must be bipartisan. Right now it has 2 republicans on it and one vacancy. Trump had removed democrat Cathy Harris before her expiry despite the rule that they cannot be removed at will. If Trump nominated someone, by rule it could not be a Republican. To no one's surprise, he hasn't nominated anyone and the board continues its work with a 2 member quorum. The job of the MSPB is to referee agency disputes with federal employees and to police favoritism and political bias in agency staffing decisions. You can see why Trump needs control of this board when his first job requirement is personal loyalty.
     
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  12. heypartner

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    Also a fool to believe politicians are always truthful about US intelligence … “Iran is two weeks away!” “Iraq has WMDs”

    that’s is to say, by definition, none of us know US Intelligence. We only know what politicians tell us.
     
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    Sounds like one hell of a party! ;)
     
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    Iraq is two weeks away from a nuclear bomb?
     
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  15. deb4rockets

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    Give it up. The dude will never stop believing Trump isn't a pathological liar. He will argue in defense of Trump no matter what he does. Whatever Trump says is all he chooses to believe. Whoever Trump blames, he blames. Whatever Trump calls a Witch Hunt he believes. When Trump says he did no wrong he believes that. Whoever Trump says is a threat he believes is a threat. If Trump Blames Biden or Obama he does too. It's cult mentality. LOL
     
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  16. Amiga

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    for the most part, but they do make some things public directly through various US departments, which of course used to be mostly nonpartisan
     
  17. raining threes

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    Did Israeli intelligence tell us where all of the leaders of this Iranian regime were going to be before we bombed their meeting and killed all of those evil bleeps?

    The intelligence was spot on, how about the cell phones/pagers blowing up leaders? The intelligence has been very good so far.
     
  18. No Worries

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    Iran is just days away from having the BOMB!!!


    I had hope that you were keeping up.
     
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  19. raining threes

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    I believe this to be true because the Israeli intelligence has been spot on about everything else and even if they weren't rith about this we needed to do everything possible to stop Iran from getting a nuke in the future. BTW, the fact that SA/UAE are behind us in this war should tell you everything you need to know, but I'm sure it wont.
     
  20. No Worries

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    I would not be surprised if both countries now regret backing the wrong horse. Being neutral might have served their interests better than riding the Trump Train as it sleep walks through Trump’s Excursion into Iran.
     

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