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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bluffkin, Nov 22, 2025.

  1. zeeshan2

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    We wait with baited breath to see whether Ameiz can hit league average from anywhere outside of underneath the basket.
     
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    Has any player done something like this and came back the following season hitting 3s regularly in games? There are lots of guys who got to a respectable (not good) 3pt shooting percentage after many years (Kidd for one) but I can't think of any who did so after one off-season.
     
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    Castle?
     
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    Stephon Castle 3p% year to year
    28.5%
    33.2%
    less than 5% increase
    Playoffs
    44% from deep

    Ameiz Thompson 3p% year to year
    13.8%
    27.5%
    21.6%
    Huge (seemingly fake) improvement, followed by almost as huge regression.
    Playoffs
    25%
    25%

    These things are not the same. At all. In any universe ever.

    Edit to add in the playoff performance, just to give a more accurate/fair picture.
     
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    some people seem to think its a coincidence that houston and detroit have terrible and predictable offenses in the playoffs...

    maybe, just maybe... having a 20% 3pt wing is an easily exploitable weakness.

    but yeah, lets pay amen thompson 40M+ per on a 5 year contract. sure.
     
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    He asked for someone that got to a respectable 3 pt % in 1 year. I answered. You don’t know any better than I do whether Amen improves to over 30% next year and, frankly, he doesn’t have to in 1 year. He just needs to extend his jump shot to 15 ft or so, to dramatically change his gravity. I do believe he will shoot corner 3’s better than 30% next year.
     
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    Castle came into the league like a De’Aaron Fox…shooting is a weakness, but he has a jump shot you can work with and with a few tweaks can become respectable

    Amen came into the league like an Andre Roberson…his jump shot was totally broken

    Castle’s jumper was a house that needed some renovations

    Amen’s jumper was an abandoned house in Detroit…the whole thing needed to be torn down and demolished

    Amen has been working with shooting coaches from day 1 in the league, and he’ll still airball wide open threes…Ausar is even somehow much worse than him
     
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    I think he will improve. You don’t. We will see. I hope the Rockets sign him for less than the max. My guess is he settles for between 40-45m for 5 years, but there is a possibility he bets on himself, depending mostly on how much cap space his advisors believe will be available in 27.
     
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    Castle's gone from a pretty shitty 3p% in year 1 to a below average 3p% in year 2. Ameiz has gone from a historically **** 3p% for a "guard" in year one to a pretty shitty 3p% in year 2 to a near historically bad 3p% in year 3. Just because you love him doesn't change FACTS. To reiterate, Castle's "bad" percentage is better than Ameiz's best percentage in his career. He improved from better than Ameiz on his best day, he's NEVER been as bad as Ameiz on his worst. Few guards have 13% seasons from deep and remain NBA starters though, so kudos to Ameiz for that I guess? (Big whoop?)
     
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    He shot 13% from 3 his rookie season on less than one attempt per game. He was not a starter. His second year he started for less than 1/2 year and shot 27% on 1.3 attempts per game almost exclusively from the corner. He regressed this year as a starter to 22% on 1.5 attempts less from the corner. He is a terrible 3 point shooter after 1 1/2 years as a starter at 22 years old playing mostly the dunker spot (even this year). You guys can write this guy off all you want. i don’t think there is a FO in the league that is writing his potential off like a few disgruntled, impatient Rocket fans. I hope he takes Jabari money, but I think at minimum he’ll be offered a bit more than Sengun money and may turn that down. The NBA has to pay for potential and Amen has one of the highest ceilings and highest floors of anybody 22 or younger in the league. They may be lying, but the Rockets have repeatably stated that Amen is untouchable. They haven’t said that about anyone else on their roster.
     
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    And yet for all of your ranting and cussing me out and stalking me with insults and getting all upset when I give it back, the NBA media at large agrees with me (the consensus view) and not you. It's really satisfying, ngl.
     
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    Lonzo Ball in his first five seasons before his injury:

    .305
    .329
    .375
    .378
    .423

    He said a change in technique totally changed his shooting accuracy.
     
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    Again though, Lonzo's worst season is still much higher than Ameiz's best season. 30.5% would be a miracle for Ameiz. We need an example of somebody who's shot 21% from deep and turned that into respectable to be somewhat comparable (we'll let him off the 13% I guess.)
     
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    Brook Lopez jumps to mind. Shot under than 10% from three his first eight seasons while almost never shooting them at all, then came back after the 2016 offseason and immediately shot 34.3% on 5.2 attempts per game.
     
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    Terrible comparison. The commonality between Detroit and Houston isnt that they both have a twin. Its that their both led by defense-centric coaches that prioritize that over anything else. Watching the Pistons felt like watching the Rockets, regardless of whether or not Ausar was on the floor.

    San Antonio starts 2 terrible shooters in Castle and Fox and they are in the WCF. Neither is the defender that either of the twins are either.
     
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    There were times above the ark where I didn’t think that Thompson’s form looked great, but I thought it looked pretty consistent in the corner this year.

    to be honest, I thought his corner percentage would be a little bit higher than it ended up being. The shot looked OK.

    my personal projection is still that he is a top 10 player in two years.
     
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    It's very unlikely Amen is getting the max based on the FO's history. I think he will end up signing a shorter contract (2 year + player option) to gamble that he will improve.
     
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    If Stone pulls off the Jalen Green special with Ameiz I may even stop thinking he's completely useless as a GM lol
     

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