I can be upset at reed when I see things like this

You mean like Josh Christopher and Usman Garuba? We're not exactly perfect there either lol

 

Their rebuild also took 6 years and 2 years of mediocrity after Kawhi left.

 

They missed on Jalen Williams for SocHan too. But overall, I think Stone needs to go. Ime too. But truthfully the Spurs have had better management than us over the years. It’s just frustrating to watch.

 

As bad as the rockets coaching is I don’t think Castle would be this type of player here. He went to the right situation.

 

Primo was more like Royce White, you never know what mental issues some guys have....

They have that thing that can pass thru with their red flags.

 

caveat they were given Victor by the NBA not drafted. no different than how Yao was given to Houston or Luka to Lakers. Money rules all

 

The Spurs braintrust that won them 5 championships is all still there.

Yeah, it was very lucky to get Wemby no doubt, but all of their roster moves make sense and Pop is still around mentoring their coach and likely assisting the new coach while Buford is probably also has been helping their newish GM

The difference between Pistons and Spurs right now is the Spurs look like they have dynasty potential while Detroit simply doesn't.

Outside of Cade, what do they really have for tanking? If we got #1 pick that year, they'd just have Jalen Green and thus would have still been tanking today, they'd be in worse shape than we are without Cade.

 

No creation off the dribble? What do you mean? He certainly creates off the dribble for other players to score off the dribble drive. He certainly drives left although his dominant hand is the right hand. All players have a dominant hand. Castle’s dominant hand is right.

 

Pistons also kept dropping in the draft, people on this fourm seem to not realize how franchise changing the #1 pick is.

 

Sure, but they're gonna make moves to build around Cade. Starting with probably Duren (moving him).

We don't have that centerpiece/cornerstone. So the best we can do is cash out while their value is high (Sengun, Smith etc.), in the hopes of getting that player. If they decide to go in that direction or wait until next year's draft and see if we can land a supertar via Nets and Phx picks.

When we had Harden we went through God knows how many lineups.

 

They had 2 years of mediocrity after Kawhi left then drafted good role players (vassel, johnson) missed on 2 drafts then was gifted Victor then gifted Castle by the Rockets.

I give them credit for the CP3 move to mentor Castle then added another vet in Fox to guide this team. They also drafted Harper which I don’t understand but again it’s about talent which the Rockets should have done with Castle instead of drafting the inferior Sheppard

 

Harper is legit tho

 

yeah i agree but im saying that’s a crowded backcourt. Not sure what the thinking is there. Is Fox in their long term plans? Im assuming they drafted talent first which is why rockets should have drafted Castle.

 

I mean they can but nothing gives me the confidence that they will know what they are doing to build around Cade and so it'll all be for naught, they'll waste his years there and eventually he'll likely move on.

They've had some time to build around Cade and the best they could do was just this super defensive focused team that relies on one dude to carry the offense...much like us actually. Their only benefit is the age of the dude carrying their offense.

But yeah, they do have Cade, but that is more out of luck than anything is my point. Spurs team is built out of many smart moves. I mean, wasn't it that KD wanted to go to the Spurs but the Spurs knew better? Another smart move, they'd probably give up assets only for KD to bring his toxicity there and instead they focused on building a team that trusts and plays for each other meanwhile we got everyone out for themselves over here.

 

They would of taken KD if they didn't already f up with Fox. 50 mil a year Lol.

Detroit might make it to the finals this yr so idk what you're talking about.

 

Imagine:

 

Fox is worth the price, their team is built, they have to spend it on someone why not a proven playoff performer? Unlike KD, Fox has no history of being toxic.

IDGAF about making the finals, one team wins. The rest of the teams are losers and start over all again the next year. No one talks about how great it was that Charles Barkley or Reggie Miller made the Finals that one time. Almost winning isn't a thing, just like Minny reaching the WCF 2 years in a row, it's a nice little thing, but what does it really mean?

The Spurs have built a better team, take Wemby off of it, it's still a really good team that could make the playoffs, add Wemby to it...well we see what it is.

 

Not exactly, if Detroit makes it to the finals in their 2nd time being in the playoffs with this squad, that means they're the team to beat in the east already.

Minnesota is far away from Okc or the Spurs.

 

Did you call Fox a proven playoff performer? A guy that in his 1st EIGHT seasons played a total of SEVEN playoff games?

 

Minnesota has capped out they are food enough to win series and maybe wcf but they will never win a series against okc and spurs they either need to hard reset and tank for a running mate with ant or ant will be traded at some point in the future.