You can max out everything, and it won’t matter if people aren’t motivated to turn out to vote. In the case of VA, the court’s partisan decision to overturn the people’s direct voice should motivate the heck out of them. Democrats should tap into that emotional energy as well as do what’s strategically prudent to maximize their chances. EDIT - Democrats are still strong favorites to win the House. Historically, their biggest risks are self-inflicted: litmus tests or refusing to vote for imperfect candidates even when the alternative is worse. So while gerrymandering matters, what could actually cost Democrats the House in this midterm is lower turnout or protest voting. The flip side is also true: anything that drives turnout matters.
I remember you jumping all over my ass when I said this in the run up to 2020. In retrospect it was too nihilistic, but it also isn't wrong. The system is indeed rigged. There are negative incentives everywhere. All we can do is vote. Beyond that, it's just a straight road to violence. A duopoly is inherently unstable. It won't last. We have to find our way out of this systemically reinforced doomloop or we will die. Plain and simple.
You can't get anymore hypocritical than this. A literal race to the bottom. As I always said, modem democrats are no different than the Republicans. Again, modern Republicans do not pretend to be the party of moral authority. The christian right of the 60s-90's were some if the worst by claiming moral authority.
Democrats went the moral route. They set up independent commissions in Colorado, virgina, California, New York, Maryland and proposed a national gerrymandering ban when Biden was president. They gave up tons of democrats seats to be the better people and Republicans in exchange ruthlessly gerrymandered Texas last year for first time in a mid decade cycle. In Utah the people voted against gerrymandering and the Utah Supreme Court did as well and in exchange the Utah legislature packed the court. In Florida there's a anti gerrymandering clause in its constitution yet they said eff you to the courts last week. Right wingers like you are brainwashed about the reality and the only way moving forward is being ruthless cuz nothing else works
Democrats need to win at least +5 nationally just to break even in the house. They may squeeze by this midterms but it's not plausible in 2028 and beyond. We need every democratic state to gerrymander to the max and if they refuse their careers need to be destroyed. If you're not willing to fight get the fck out of the way
If there was ever an election to gerrymander in order to get to a bipartisan bill to criminalize gerrymandering moving forward it would be this one. I want Dem states to do it in the most aggressive way possible while also making it clear they want to get rid of gerrymandering if only the republicans would agree. Then win this elections in such a way that Republican voters start telling their reps enough is enough, just sign a law that outlaws all this gerrymandering crap. You can’t make gerrymandering unpopular by not gerrymandering.
1) Gerrymandering is already highly unpopular across the board. Its the corrupt politicians, both sides, who put party over country. Perhaps voters across the board should just stop voting for all of these bad politicians instead of creating their entire identity on their political party 2) This is just another hypocritical take - "we should do unethical and unpopular things to teach the other side a lesson. But really deep down i just want my team to win regardless"
When are you going to learn im not a target for you to gaslight?? You will not manifest self doubt regardless how many times you try. Gerrymandering is something Republicans want to use to stay in power using Jim Crow era minority rule tactics, and are running a massive psych op campaign to try and make democrats feel guilty for using those same tactics to counter. Rules for thee not for me. Obviously republican voters are not demanding their elected officials stop gerrymandering their districts because partisan Republican voters in the past have understood it’s the main reason they have a right wing Congress person and (in their minds) not a libtard woke communist. My point is to make republican voters believe that gerrymandering actually risks hurting them instead of helping them from being forced to send their kids to an all tranny school where they are say the pledge of allegiance to the Republic of China or whatever you crazy maga people believe will happen if heaven forbid a pro Democracy Congress person gets elected. Yes gerrymandering is very unpopular with the general public. That’s kind of the point. This is a majority liberal country that because of laws meant to give more power to land than people, is ruled by a minority voter with unpopular regressive views. So I say let’s make gerrymandering unpopular even with maga hacks like yourself. And yes you are being disingenuous here. Every one of us knows you want gerrymandering for republicans but are freaked out at the thought of Democrats using those tactics to fight back. Nobody buys your gaslighting bullsh$t.
Democrats are panicking right now because their power came from control over the media, censorship of opposing viewpoints, gerrymandered districts, illegal immigration and its impact on the census + House of Reps, fraud schemes to pay their donors, illegal voting schemes, and foreign influence in their favor. Trump is ending it all -- in favor of honest democracy. It's amazing how reform comes about when the truth is shared. GOOD DAY
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The fact that the people of CA and VA, who hate partisan gerrymandering enough to have outlawed it, would give Democrats the temporary power to do so speaks volumes about how angry they are with Republican tactics. So I fully expect Democrats to pursue it, but it's not always in their hands. The energy is there, though, and Democrats need to fully exploit that simmering anger, especially given how unpopular this administration is while a Republican Congress does nothing except rubber-stamp its extremely unpopular policies.
The For the People Act, which passed the House in 2021 but was blocked in the Senate by Republicans, would have effectively outlawed partisan gerrymandering. When power transitions, it needs to come back and pass. There are also a number of other provisions in it that would start to "unrig the system."
Who exactly do you think is dumb enough for your low iq propaganda? You know we're not dumbasses like your fellow cultists right? There's not a single republican state the size of New York that has a independent commission. Democrats tried playing nice by not gerrymandering it's biggest states like NY CA CO VA and nothing came from it cuz MAGATs are in a cult
everyone should be calling their reps in Virginia and demanding they do this…pressure them in public if need be enough of the games and falling victim to norms
The VA supreme court justices are elected by the General Assembly. The next 2 up for re-election voted to strike down the map, in 2027 and 2028. Will the GA punish them?
I wish I could believe you. We will get a little jolt of outrage in 2026 and maybe 2028. But you saw how we went back to electing Trump despite momentarily having the clarity to dépose him in 2020. Voters are inconstant and dumb. They forget the outrages they suffered and go back to their abusers.
