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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. Hemingway

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    It’s the same front office that thought Nix was a lottery level prospect, KPJ was the next Harden, Jalen Green was MJ, and FVV is a top pg in the league. Reed was the logical pick in that draft given the Rockets’ need for shooting at the time. He’s probably going to be a good player off the bench, with possible upside as a starter. All this crap they are spreading now is just CYA to cover Stone’s ass and justify running it back with FVV and Adams. Ugh. Amen, Jabari, and my love for basketball are the only thing that keeps me watching this mess. I don’t think Ime and Stone survive after next season, but man what a painful year we are going to have to endure.
     
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  2. MichaelSpartan

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    Reed Sheppard for G League! He can Mac McClung it.
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Couldn’t agree more. I think people really don’t quite understand what Steve Nash and John Stocktons true skillset and talent really was. Both players were just born with this insane knack for passing and court vision. Go back and watch game 3 again vs the Lakers and come back here with the Nash comparison.

    If there is a generational court vision and passing ability there with Reed I sure as hell have never seen it.

    Reed is likely a streak shooter/scorer in a 6th man type of role and that’s perfectly fine. It just sucks that the front office is showing signs of delusion and letting their ego get in the way of proper player analysis.
     
  4. Hemingway

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    I think the whole bbiq thing with Reed is more about skin pigmentation than anything I’ve seen on the court. Great white hope syndrome. He might be a generational shooter like DD says, but he has not demonstrated elite characteristics in any other category but steals (and that comes with a price). There is nothing wrong with having a great sharp shooter coming off the bench. Ime and Stone are giving a master class in CYA.
     
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    You wouldn't be saying that about Nash if he had Ime as a head coach instead of D'Antoni. All the court vision and passing ability in the world won't help you if your team doesn't run any kind of competent offense.... you have to have people to pass to and if they are just standing around doing nothing, there's no one to pass to.

    Also, Ime would have never played 21 year old Stockton or Nash (especially since neither were in the league till they were 22)... so that's something to consider.
     
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  6. dobro1229

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    Yep. If you take skin color out of the equation and just focus on skills, size, and BBIQ this is much more of a worst case Lou Williams, best case Trae Young type of player. I don't even necessarily see a generational shooter here given how streaky he is. He is a streak shooter/scorer more than he is a spot up type of spacing shooter ala Steve Kerr/Troy Daniels.

    And you cannot compare anyone to Steph Curry in terms of shooting. There will likely NEVER be another Steph Curry or anyone close to him. I cannot stand Steph and his stupid mouthpiece and smirk... .but the dude is shooter like we never have seen, and likely never will again.
     
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    Sengun/Adams/Capela
    Smith
    Durant/DFS
    Amen
    Reed/FVV/Davidson

    I guess is the current state of the team. If you make the assumption that we will start Reed, which we absolutely should.. Bring back Eason at 20 million per. If we believe in Thompson and Sengun On the same roster than we have to adapt to some different coaching philosophy and get Players that balance out the deficiencies brought on by those guys.

    I don’t think our current front office or coaches are smart enough to get it done, but it probably could be done

    Sengun/Adams
    Smith/Okongwu
    Eason
    Thompson
    Reed/FVV


    That is 8 guys after bringing in Okongwu. Okongwu does a lot to help us in the front court and addresses a lot of of our weaknesses in my opinion.

    That leaves us needing to bring in one or two players that are content to come off the bench. They need to be able to shoot and we need a couple other guys that can create their own shot and distribute at a decent level.
     
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    Rafael Stone, asked if Reed Sheppard is Houston's starting point guard down the road: "My expectation for him is he should be. I think he should be a really good one. I think that's his expectation for himself as well."

    Ime Udoka, asked if Reed Sheppard is Houston's starting point guard down the road: Not now, if ever.

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    Steph was 22 in his second season, and Reed will be 22 next season. I do think he can get 44% from 3, especially considering that he shot 39% from 3 with a really long cold streak in there. But 19 ppg will be tough since he'll be coming off the bench, likely with reduced minutes. On a team that features Reed, he could probably get closer to that number. I'm not saying he's going to be Nash or Steph, but I do believe he can become an exceptional player.
     
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    Where does the Trae comparison come from? Trae can’t shoot, just they are both short?
     
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    I like Okongwu. He's the young version of Capela plus a decent outside shot.
     
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    Better than Lou? Doubtful. Lou had handles. speed and wiggle that Reed has not exhibited. Reed does shoot better from deep. Reed might be a better passer.
     
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    I thought Rafael Stone said he and Ime hardly ever disagree?? Hmmm
     
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    I mean, maybe? Lou Williams was a very flawed player, that's why he was a bench player basically his whole career. His career FG% and 3P% were 41.9% and 35.1% respectively. Obviously Reed wouldn't get there the same way, but I can see him being a 6th man in that vein.

    Reed is an interesting player. In some ways he makes a huge impact, but he's been inconsistent so far and in some ways he's a real liability. It feels pretty difficult to predict his range of outcomes, I'm just fairly certain he's not going to be a perennial all-star. I can see him being anything from a decent #2 option to a career bench player. I do think that if it's the latter, he will be a good one with a long career in the league.
     
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    Thank you! Atleast someone finally said it, Reed is a DEI hire to meet diversity quota and give hope to media members who hope their sons can make it one day.
     
  17. Hemingway

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    Did they ask him about KPJ and Daishon Nix? Are they still going to be great in his opinion?
    Yes one of the best scenarios for the Rockets if you could get Atlanta to bite would be Okongwu, NAW, and the NOP pick for Sengun and, if necessary, one of our own future picks. Doubt they would give up that NOP pick, but they might after the lottery if it is not top 5.
     
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    he was already there his first year; he was pretty good
     
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    He just practically started his career, and he had a yoyo year wherein he was yanked in and out by his inept coach. The conclusions about his future, already made especially from his two or three regular bashers on CF is quite premature, to put it kindly. His usage by Ime is going to hamper his development, and even the great pgs or players, for that matter, had to have the right coaches and environment that enabled them to become great stars. The more recent examples are SGA and Halliburton. Even Steph and Nash had to have the right coaches that made them great players. That is not to say that Reed will become like them. But there is no arguing that he has shown great improvement to his overall game despite the obstacles created by his inept coach.

    One of the things that Reed, and the other Rockets need to learn, unfortunately, is to do what the stars do, flop to bait fouls. None of the Rockets, except to a certain extent, KD, are able to flop like the so-called stars in the game. Lebron, SGA, Brunson, etc. are floppers and know how to game the officials. Harden is one of the experts at it and he might want to teach some of the Rockets how to do it, especially Alpi and Amen. That is just the reality of the NBA today and players must adjust.
     
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