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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bluffkin, Nov 22, 2025.

  1. mac_got_this

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    Handles aren’t something you can dramatically improved at this level. They supremely developed during your adolescence/teen years. 9 times out of 10the level a players handles are at collegiately, is what it will ultimately be professionally.


    What you said about Jabari can be said about a lot of players. They said the same thing about Klay.

    beaides most of Jabari shortcomings are more mentally and upstairs than physical like that terrible turnover in game 3
     
  2. OremLK

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    Yeah, the abilities he's flashed combined with his athleticism, work ethic, and love for the game make me very, very confident he can be the 2nd best player on a championship team. I'm just not sure if he can get to #1 option status. That would require a much larger improvement. It's not impossible though, we've seen that level of breakout occasionally, and he is probably the best chance we have at it happening.

    The only other believable path would be Sengun suddenly developing a high-volume, league average or better 3P shot. (I do really fear trading Sengun this offseason and immediately having his outside shot unlocked with a better coach, making us look like idiots.)

    Anyway, I don't see what we can do besides extending him, even if it costs too much. I wouldn't trade him for an aging star, that's for damned sure. Maybe if somebody is willing to send us a top 6-7 pick in this draft class, I could see it. That's about the only scenario that makes any sense for him to not get an extension with us, IMO.
     
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    You don't have to extend him now, unless it's a team friendly deal. Worst case you let him test RFA. If a team gives him a max, you match or don't (that max is less than the max the Rockets can give - 4 years instead of 5 and, 5% raises instead of 8%) or force a S&T and at least come away with something.

    That 5-6-7 range looks like the sweet spot for point guards in this draft - I'd love to get in on that. All three of them are really good.
     
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    The ugliest basketball I've watched is my center getting stopped 1 on 1 by Rui Hachimura, and crying for calls after every missed shot that's blindly flipped at the rim. I'd rather watch toughness that weakness, if you want ballerina ball, watch Euroleague games where NBA rejects go to dominate.
     
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    Let's do a thought exercise. Let's say Sengun leaves and becomes a 40% 3 point shooter on volume, and say Amen develops only his handle to get anywhere on the court, but his shot is still broken. Who do you think will be the better player to build around?
     
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    In that scenario...

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    Yeah that didn't happen - Alpi feasted on Rui when they were 1 on 1.

    In turn, I could say the ugliest basketball I've seen is watching my PG dribble down the court on a 3-on-1 fast break only to kick the ball out of bounds once he gets to the basket.

    The hate for Sengun here is clearly based on something more than just basketball, and I think we all know what that is.
     
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    Amen's floor/alt reality is 1st team all defense like his brother. I only worry about a zapping injury.
     
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  9. SelvianFly

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    Yes its clearly based on the fact that his archetype has already proven to be hard to build teams around and the All Time best outcome still gets you bounced in the first round, or a fluke playoff run beating 40 win teams. Yes, the brothas punk him and are too athletic and big for his little under the rim ballerina moves to work. You can insinuate he is targeted because of his skin color, but its because he Mehmet Okur, and we all know you can't play Okur.
     
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    What a dimwitted view of basketball. Go watch football and rugby and WWE if that’s what you want, give me finesse players over guys playing bully ball any day. Media has really brainwashed us into being dumb cavemen.

     
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  11. SelvianFly

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    Sir you are dimwitted if you can't look at the evidence staring you in the face. Did I say they lack skill? What good is finesse if you can't accomplish your objective which is to put the ball in the basket? Alpy game isn't even aesthetic, its the worst of both worlds, he is soft, lacks a dominant skill AND isn't big enough or athletic enough to compensate. Bully ball wins, bigger stronger, better athletes are able to actually display their skills.
     
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    No way you actually believe his game is the ugliest you've ever watched while our team is surrounded with glorified athletes. You sound like those people who can't tweet without some wild exaggeration like, "This was probably the worst game i've ever watched and i watched ... game" which gets tiring really quickly. It wasn't the worst game you watched though, was it? You just c*m to the sound of your own voice.

    The reality is that he regularly cooks elite centers. He goes through guys like Gobert and Wemby consistently. He clearly suffers from Udoka's nonexistent offense and the lack of ball handlers and our problems get exposed even more in the playoffs.

    If you think this is all he is then i should probably ignore you and move on because you clearly don't have an eye for the game and i can't learn anything from you.
     
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    Hope so.... because that shot has been there for him all year......
     
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    I only used your hyperbolic statement against you, talking about mansplaining and getting women which did have a hint of something, can't quite place it though. Oh, Sengun can probably get much better offensively with a better coach, but it doesn't matter because he isn't good enough on defense which is the most important job of a center. Guards pass and dribble, wings guard perimeter, forward rebounds, center locks down the paint and can switch if he's elite. Aengun can do neither at a consistent high level
     
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    This is my opinion of course, Thompson is the biggest trade chip they have. I love everything about the way he plays, but if the claim to be a contender, he's not untradeable. Any package involving Sengun for Giannis will almost certain contain Thompson in Bucks rebuild. Giannis incoming with Thompson staying is a disaster if he is the target. Im not a fan of Bari, but a Giannis, KD, Bari front court with Sheppard and Tari would be a better combination in my eyes. Eason does alot of the same things as Thompson and most times his shot is better. Whatever they do, they can't straddle the fence. Either the team is here now competing for a title or they're stuck being a 3-6 losing to spurs or okc.
     
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  18. Little Bit

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    That would be an absolute disaster if they trade both Sengun and Amen for a short window of Giannis who is injury prone. Once that window is over then what?
     
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  19. GOATuve

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    No way you do that. What's the point? Doesn't make us better. Gives up our best young player. Giannis can't shoot and he's getting older.
     
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  20. DM'sVP

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    All that needs to happen is…

    Amen needs to hit corner 3s
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    Alpi needs to hit top of the arch 3s
     

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