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Sengun for Giannis needs to happen …

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RB713, Jan 3, 2026.

  1. Corrosion

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    Because they have Bam .... Ware is never going to start for the as long as that's the case.

    Yeah, he's cost controlled depth for them, but do you think he's happy not having the opportunity to earn the big money? It's like he's being held hostage. They can't keep him on the bench and expect him to be thrilled about it.

    Regardless - he produces when he's on the court.
     
  2. Mathloom

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    Oh no, he can easily play alongside Bam. Bam’s shooting continues to improve. Ware is supposed to have range. Both are switchable types. No one in Miami is worried about that. Their fans are worried about his motor.

    They had to bench him because he lost motivation for reasons that no one could figure out.

    Bottom line - even if he plays Bam’s position no one gives up a second year two way big switchable big man with touch on jumpers just because there’s a vet in his place. Unless something’s wrong with that guy.
     
  3. Corrosion

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    Just for the record, the minimum outgoing salary to satisfy the CBA in a trade for Giannis and no other salary is $46,765,253 +/- $100k and the maximum $73,195,708 +/-100k.

    Sengun and Reed = $46,751,082. That would qualify.

    That said, I don't want Giannis. I've had enough of the guy's over 30 .... Just keep churning thru players until you find a young star.
     
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  4. Corrosion

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    Unless what they are getting in return is perceived as better / more valuable.

    If KD is the moving part for the Rockets, he's clearly the better player.
     
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    What does that mean? Playing through mediocrity and going backwards? Drafting doesn’t guarantee a star so if that doesn’t work teams acquire one through trade or free agency. We don’t have the luxury that other teams have in terms of the draft and it makes little sense to trade current players for draft picks that may never pan out and reset again. that’s never happened in the history of the NBA for a team that has gone through a recent rebuild and trying to win now.Besides what rebuilding team will trade away a lottery pick? Giannis is a championship player and still only 31. We simply don’t have enough star power. We need to accelerate this team forward not backwards
     
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    they would also be eating 12 mil if they did the minimum and I don’t think the Bucks are satisfied with just Sengun and Sheppard.
     
  7. cml750

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    Giannis will never be a Rocket unless he signs on for a much lower contract at the end of his career, and even then it would be a mistake. The guy is 7 months away from 32 and relies solely on his athleticism that will fall off a a cliff in the next few years. We would not have time to build a the team full of shooters we would need to win with him. The Bucks were only able to do it once with a much younger Giannis (much younger in Basketball years). What makes people think we could do better basically starting from scratch especially if we included Reed in the trade as some propose?
     
  8. Corrosion

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    No, they'd be saving $12m off their cap.
     
  9. OremLK

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    Trading for Giannis would be like accelerating this team forward off a cliff.

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    I can see the argument on going for a guy like Mitchell who might maintain his level of play for four, five, maybe even six more years (I still think it would be a mistake though), but Giannis cannot even stay healthy come playoff time as he is, and looks like a career ending injury waiting to happen.

    Regardless, it is incredibly rare for a team to win it all by trading for star players. It usually belly flops, hard. When has it ever happened outside of LeBron (in the argument for GOAT status) basically picking his destination? Only time I can think of in recent memory is Kawhi to the Raptors. Other than those two exceptions, the best teams going back decades have won by finding their #1A organically, through the draft and player development, or acquiring him as a prospect who hasn't broken out and become a star yet.
     
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    Rockets should trade Sengun for Banchero.
     
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    I wonder about the Mitchell angle. Sports writers throw his name out there. I don't know if Mitchell would even be available. You'd think Cleveland would be desperate to keep such a player.
     
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    Casuals are so hilarious. Giannis hates playing center. There’s simply not enough runway in KD and Giannis’s remaining timeline to completely rebuild a contending roster. I hope Stone and Udoka try though, cause it’s obvious they won’t ever lose their jobs barring a disaster, and that move might be the best bet.

     
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    Mitchell is part of the problem at Cavs. I don’t know why he or others think he has a lot of leverage, he’s a solution, or how he himself thinks he ends up in a better situation, Mobley and Harden are already pretty good. I think these guys are all hoping for teams closer to being contenders. Rockets will be stuck with a guy who doesn’t want to be here, a side piece or a Udoka favorite washed up guy once again. It’s sad.

     
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    Yeah, I still don't think I'd trade for Mitchell unless it's just KD going out in the deal, not any major draft picks or young players. KD for Mitchell makes some level of sense for both teams though. I'm not sure why Mitchell would want to play here though, that's probably the biggest issue. We're a more appealing city than Cleveland, but not necessarily a more appealing roster.
     
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    Losing Jabari or Amen in the deal would be disappointing. Only two guys worth holding onto at the moment. Maybe Reed but I’d prefer him to be packaged with Sengun for Giannis than the other two. Be a good GM and keep them out the deal. Giannis played 36 games last year
     
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    His mismatch is at center and I watch alot of bucks games. Embiid, Joker,and Wemby are really the only true centers in the nba. When they play them, he guards them most times anyway. It's no different when all them yrs the Spurs were calling Duncan pf, but then Malik Rose center. His advantage in terms of speed and mobility are at center. Now you can sign a Drummond or some other big dude to bang when he needs a break.
     
  18. J.R.

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    Fred
    Amen
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    Giannis
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    Got dat dawwggg, dat effort, dat tuffness, dat rebounding, dat physicality

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  19. Nook

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    Can't wait until Stone and company discuss internally hitching their future to Giannis or AD.

    Either one can be added to the Steven Adams, Kevin Durant, FVV, Clint Capela and DFS group of old high milage players with severe injury risks.

    "We could sit and pout about injuries to ____, and it makes you think it just isn't our year. No one could anticipate insert old injury prone players here would be injured in the playoffs."
     
  20. Easy

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    Yep. Getting washed superstar makes Stone look like he's doing something big. And when injuries come, he can always blame it on bad luck.
     

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