[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

The American blockade is devastating Iran.

They badly want and need a deal.

 

Even worse is wanting 1.5 trillion more for his warmongering budget. That's obscene.

 

Maybe they are being devastated. But, what have you seen that indicates they want a deal? Maybe they need a deal and maybe thay should want a deal. But people who chant Death to America! aren't always eager to make compromises with the Great Satan because they are denied material things.

 

LBJ is the only other president that's been this concerned about his ball room.

 

I don’t think you understand these people, the geopolitics , and thsi conflict overall


Let me guess you were one of the ones that thought staged protests and assasinating their leader would lead to a surrender.

the US could nuke Iran tomorrow and there would be no surrender

 

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/27/iran-us-hormuz-strait-nuclear-talks-proposal-pakistan

Axios is pay walled but the Kyiv Post is citing it here:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/74849...roposed a,talks between Washington and Tehran.

Iran has reportedly proposed a new deal to the US to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end hostilities, while postponing nuclear negotiations to a later stage.

According to US and regional sources cited in Axios’s Sunday report, the proposal was conveyed through Pakistani mediators and is aimed at breaking a deadlock in ongoing talks between Washington and Tehran.

The plan would prioritize reopening the key shipping route and potentially extending a ceasefire or reaching a broader agreement to end the conflict, while delaying discussions on Iran’s nuclear program.

I don't doubt the Iranian people and regimes capacity to endure much more hardship then a Western government or population.

Still, even the Iranians have limits, they aren't immune to total economic collapse, which is what they are facing.

Roughly 90% of Iranian oil is shipped out. There storage capacity is becoming full. Soon it will be full. Oil sales represent about 60% of Iranian government revenue. 50% of military spending is financed by it.

 

You're an idiot.

Iran saw massive, regime threatening, economic riots in January.

A long term blockade of Iran eliminating the countries ability to export or import goods by sea (other than the Caspian sea) will cause economic collapse and riots which will threaten the regime again.

That time frame is measured in weeks.

That's why Iran is desperate for a deal and is actively seeking one.

 

Well… I guess but you are missing the whole point that the authoritarian totalitarian regime in Iran doesn’t have to worry about the political position they are in with economics, etc. while Trump does still have to answer to the American people and has elections coming up.

I’m sure you wish he didn’t and could officially become dictator for life but at least at the moment gas prices here in the US matter. 5 dollar eggs due to supply chain issues contributed a lot to the narratives around Biden’s presidency.

I don’t know why people assuming gas prices nearly doubling won’t have just as much of an influence on voters and trumps desperation to cut a deal… even a deal that puts the US in a worse position than they were in the years after Obamas admin negotiated the JCPOA that Trump tore up.

So even if Trump “wins” here you cannot be dumb enough to believe that the US position will be better after than it was after the negotiated deal that Obama had in place that capped their ability to make a nuclear bomb, allowed for a free and open Strait of Hormuz, and only allowed for a very limited amount of sanction relief…

We can’t really judge until we see the deal Trump gets done… assuming he does at some point… but you’d be pretty stupid to believe it’ll put us in a better position than we were prior to going to war with Iran… but each his own. If Trump is you messiah and he can do no wrong than there’s not much I can ever say to reason with someone that incredible stupid.

 

You’re not very intelligent.

it may help you to climb out of your shitty life by taking a step back and looking at where certain decisions lead. In this instance you have a mountain of empiric and objective evidence telling you the contrary to what you are saying. Talking with emotions or what you hope to happen, empire conquests, “mUH fReDuMz” or whatever motive is not in your or anyone’s best interest. An increase of 1.5 trillion dollars to the deficit separate from the losses incurred are not sustainable and throughout history have predicted fall of civilizations to a T.

you could take your assertion and apply it to the conditions for Vietnam, Iraq , Afghanistan or any other failed modern conflict. It’s called wishful and idiotic thinking. I don’t understand how a minority (let’s face it, you’re the small % stupid enough to cheer this on) is so moronic.

you guys are a ****ing embarrassment and a schit stain at this point.

 

@HTM believes that iran is seeking a deal desperately because he gets his news from truth social lmao

meanwhile his pedo messiah has turned back from every threat he’s made and hasn’t been able to enact a single concession. The entire world is laughing btw, maybe expand your information circle

we really do have the worst education system in the entire world

 

At least LBJ cared a whole lot about some domestic issues...

...and made them happen

 

Regarding Trump still being bound to US voters, I think there's a growing argument that is not true. I believe Josh Marshall was right when he said today that Trump recognizes the House is lost, so what does it matter to him if Repubs are down 5 seats or 40 seats? The outcome for him will be the same. It's the purple Republican House members he's screwing now. I also think he believes it's a given that the Senate stays in Repub hands, though it increasingly seems like a risky position to take. Even if he loses the Senate though, there will not be enough votes to impeach him. So, if he has already internalized the House loss and the Senate loss doesn't really matter (who's going to stop him from what he's doing?), why would he be concerned about any public opinion issues in the US?

 

First of all, Trump's not bound to anyone but his own self-interest. Second, you are right about him feeling untouchable now, knowing that nobody can stop him, and he can get away with anything and never serve a day in prison. This is where we are now as a country, and it's really disturbing.

 

while paying $1 more for gasoline.

No Trump lie about Iran negotiations is going to change the price of gas. An actual peace agreement, with Trump making some very painful concessions, will open the Strait of Trump's Folly and will lower of the price of gas ... slowly over months.

 

[The Strait of Hormuz has always been open]

[WestMerica has never been at war with EastAsia]

[MidAsia has always been at war with WestMerica]

 

I get Dr. Strangelove vibes out of this administration.
Without being, you know, funny.

 

They will open the straight as long as the US leaves them the **** alone? That was always the deal. That was what existed before the war.