Wait so its Ime's job to make free throws for Alperen Sengun? Ime's the one responsible for Sengun bricking the majority of his 3s? Ime's supposed to make Sengun's layups for him???? Damn that's alot on a coach.
It's almost like they're trying to make me an ex-fan after decades of living and dying with this team.
I gave up on the Rockets because they won't win a championship with Sengun. I have made that clear over the years. Drop coverage defense is a liability that will always doom the Rockets in the playoffs. I couldn't be more clear on that. Only big man who is a top 3 offensive option on their team to win a championship in the last 18 years has been Jokic. And he played against nothing but 8th seeded teams to do it. Everyone else was tanking. ...and Sengun is a million times less than Jokic. Both Michael Jordan and Jalen Green were born in February. I watched Jordan and always saw him as a ball hog. Harden did the same and was called a "Hero Ball" guy. MJ was seen as a basketball god while Harden was criticized. Jordan had trouble getting out of the first round his first 3 seasons. Numbers were poor. MJ played 3 playoff games at age 24....averaged 28 (FGA), 41.8 (2P%), 42.9 (eFG%), 13 (FTA) why his TS% will always be skewed. Jalen Green 1 playoff game at age 24....................16 (FGA), 44.4 (2P%), 43.8 (eFG%), 4 (FTA) vs the #1 defense with Caruso, Dort, Jalen Williams and backed by Hartenstien and Chet. Jordan in game 10 of playoff career: 39 mins, 9-30 (FGM - FGA), 30 (FG%), 0 (3P%), 31 (2P%), 30 (eFG%) Jordan averaged 4 turnovers a playoff game in his first 7 playoff games and the Bulls didn't trade him. But the Rockets front office that has a lot of Carroll Dawson old school thinkers believe a Sengun type player can win titles. These knuckleheads from Turkey think the NBA has never tried a post up game. We Americans invented the game and perfected the post up game until rule changes made it non essential. Now the Rockets are going to set themselves back years fooling themselves into thinking the Sengun post game is going to come back from the dead and shock the world. No. The Rockets need to trade Sengun this off-season while there are still dumb coaches/owners that thinks a non 3-point shooting post up crap player is still relevant, like when they found Steve Clifford to take a past his time Dwight Howard.
Jalen does not have the body strength to finish thru traffic consistently. Mike had it. Shooting so many 3s, high variance, sometimes it works, other times it does not.
Michael Jordan as a mid-range and inside the paint had a higher FG percentage around 60%, his 3 point % is terrible. His First few seasons, Michael Jordan counter moves and creativity in the air for layups was impressive.
Yes after Detroit introduced the "Jordan Rules" of knocking him down every chance you get. Jordan went hard to the gym. Many speculated steroid use. (I'm not accusing him....but do your research) I posted stats on how the league has gotten lighter in weight at every position. That Jalen Green can/will be a much lighter version of Jordan So far the league / refs are not sending Green to the line like they did Jordan. Jordan went to the line if players just looked at him wrong. I posted the Dream Team photographer asking Magic Johnson to get closer to MJ....Magic responded, well I don't want to be called for a foul!! Everybody knows MJ got special treatment. He would hack guys across the forearms and the whole arena could hear and no call..... meanwhile Jordan would miss a layup and foul would be called because someone was near him. We all know the league is rigged anyway. This is mathematically impossible...(watch short video)
Most of all people firget, Jalen is still only 24yrs old. When Jordan was facing the Pistons, he was 25, 26? He didn't get into the weight room until he was 27, 28 and thats when he won first title. Im not saying KD is a bad player, I think he's great BUT his timeline does not fit with this roster; Jabari, Tari, Reed, Sengun, Amen are all 24yrs and under and some are no where near their prime, especially Amen and Jabari, same for Jalen. THATS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD TRADE
We've now heard He's only 19 He's only 20 He's only 21 He's only 22 He's only 23 He's only 24 I can't wait for "he's only 35" you know it's coming eventually.
So, on this front we are comparing Jalen Green (with no major wins on his resume) to MJ? Wild times, I thought the Sengunatics were delusional, but this guy is not even on our team anymore. This crazy debate is on Stone, a serious team wouldn't have us talking about this nonsense.
Delusion at its best. Let's talk about Jordan. Let's ask AI what Jordan did his first 5 years. During his first five NBA seasons (1984-1989), Michael Jordan established himself as a dominant individual superstar, winning the 1985 Rookie of the Year, the 1988 MVP, and the 1988 Defensive Player of the Year, while averaging 32.6 points, 6.2 rebounds, and 5.9 assists. Despite individual accolades, the Bulls did not make the Finals in this period. Key Accomplishments (1984–1989): 1985 Rookie of the Year: Selected as Rookie of the Year after averaging 28.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg, and 5.9 apg. 1988 NBA Most Valuable Player (MVP): Won his first league MVP, beating out stars like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. 1988 Defensive Player of the Year: Won the award while becoming a premier defender. All-NBA First Team (1987-1989): Earned All-NBA First Team honors three times within his first five seasons. Scoring Title (1987-1989): Led the league in scoring for consecutive seasons. Record-Setting Playoff Performance: Scored an NBA-record 63 points in a single playoff game against the Boston Celtics in 1986. 1989 Achievement: Seven consecutive triple-doubles. Playoff Performance (1984-1989): Jordan helped the Bulls make the playoffs, but did not reach the NBA Finals. He experienced early playoff struggles, including back-to-back first-round sweeps, but won his first playoff series in 1988. You know, perhaps they didn't trade him as he was actually averaging more points, rebounds, and assists in his first year than Jalen ever has. Or, perhaps because by year 4 he was already MVP and defensive player of the year. By year 3 he was already All-NBA first team and led the league in scoring. Maybe, because he set NBA scoring records against the Celtics in his 2nd year in the playoffs. I don't know, perhaps Jalen did something similar. Let's look at Jalen and compare to be fair. In his first five years as a professional basketball player (2020–2026), Jalen Green established himself as a high-volume scorer, first for the Houston Rockets and later for the Phoenix Suns. Professional Achievements (NBA & G League) Draft Milestone: Selected 2nd overall in the 2021 NBA Draft by the Houston Rockets, becoming the first player drafted directly from the NBA G League Ignite. NBA All-Rookie First Team (2022): Earned this honor after a standout debut season where he averaged 17.3 points per game. Scoring Records: Became the first Rockets rookie since Hakeem Olajuwon to score 40+ points in a game (41 points vs. Atlanta in 2022). One of only six guards in NBA history to score 30+ points at least 10 times before turning 21. Reached the 6,000-career point milestone in early 2025. NBA Slam Dunk Contest (2022): Participated and finished in third place. Contract Extension: Signed a three-year, $106 million extension with the Rockets in October 2024 before being traded to the Suns in July 2025. G League Ignite Pioneer: Was the inaugural player for the NBA G League Ignite developmental program (2020–21), where he averaged 17.9 points per game. International & Amateur Success Three-Time Gold Medalist: Won gold with Team USA at the 2017 FIBA Americas U16 Championship, the 2018 FIBA U17 World Cup, and the 2019 FIBA U19 World Cup. FIBA U17 World Cup MVP (2018): Named tournament MVP after leading the U.S. in scoring. High School Accolades (2020): Named Sports Illustrated All-American Player of the Year and a McDonald’s All-American as the #1 overall recruit by ESPN. Woah, look at the NBA-All-Rookie First Team, incredible, all while averaging under 20 points a game as Silas let him do and KPJ whatever they wanted. And participated in the slam dunk contest too? Incredible achievements for this first 5 years. Totally the same as MJ, Jordan would be proud to pass the torch to him . Yeah, sorry Apache, simply put, Jalen can't hold Jordan's jockstrap, maybe if he is feeling generous Jordan can let Jalen sniff it. They are not even in the same category. To claim otherwise is delusion of the highest caliber. Might want to start looking at Zach Lavine for a fair comparison. Have fun being the fan of a different team because the rest of us are Rockets fans and one single player is not going to make us stop, whether he leaves the team (Jalen) or is currently part of it (Sengun). 50 years as a Rockets fan and that's what makes you leave? Sad.
I'm not necessarily saying Ime is a good coach BUT they have addressed in the past why they put Sengun in the middle of the floor - it's because he is one pass away from everyone else on the floor so he is being positioned there strategically as a way to activate 'Senhub" and let him read doubling defenses and hit the open man directly. If they put him on the low block he can pass out of doubles but the players he has his back to are often guarded by a single man and that's a difficult pass to find the open guy when two guys are swarming you and 3rd is playing safety in between your open men. That then forces Sengun to find release valves on his side of the court which puts pressure on guys like Jabari, Tari, Okogie, and KD to be a high level connector and immediately find the open guy to maintain the advantage and NONE of those guys are necessarily great connectors. Again - not saying it's the right way to do things but part of why Ime uses Sengun in this way is to give him the ability to see where doubles are coming from and activate the high level reads he already does.
Are we talking about the same MJ that put up 44/6/6 in his 2nd season at 22 years old in the playoffs against the 86 celtics? Who are considered on the short list for best team ever?
Yeap. Delusion at its best. The sad part is that he is sticking to his gun, rather than just claiming temporary lunacy due to trading his favorite player from the team while simultaneously keeping Sengun. No way I ever give up my Rockets fandom just because a favorite player of mine is traded. I still wish Harden had been brought back, and as we can see with the Cavs, he still has it. What can you do? Rockets fan always, not a player fan. I don't care who they trade, Sengun, Amen, etc. I'm still going to be a Rockets fan, even if I disagree with the move (I'm looking at you Fertits, for trading CP3 for the horrid player that was Westbrick even at 30 years of age. Don't make the same mistake with Giannis who is already 31 and showing major health concerns).
if westbrook didn't make us quit all together, i think they are pretty safe with our personal fandoms. the result for over two decades has been the same. The last game of the playoffs has been a loss.
Exactly, in this video Grover explains meeting MJ (2:41 mark) and telling MJ let's not work on getting quicker, faster, stronger...but work on ankle stability and groin pull issues. But yet MJ gained 15 pounds of muscle in one summer. Yes MJ worked hard but I suspect juicing assisted faster. [Just entertainment purposes] You can't say let's work on getting bigger/stronger later and then bulking up instantly The trade was better in having KD with Jalen Green. KD has stated in recent years that his days of getting to the rim are over. He enjoys hitting the mid-range shots and 3's. Jalen Green can be a 3-tier level scorer with KD drawing the gravity of the defense. Green could slash along baseline or Catch-N-Shoot 3 (he was over 41% last year) while KD lived in that mid-range area. When teams pack the paint vs KD/Sengun....it kinda kills everything as they both bring the gravity of the defense to the same mid-range region. It's dancing with two right shoes. The things Durant said on his burner account were 100% correct.
