No we didn't, this is just a made up opinion. You have consistently thrown shade at Stone, wish you people would that acknowledge it's personal for you. The Nets had cap space and a bunch of assets from the KD trade (including Bridges and Cam Johnson). Just because they had one bad season with Bridges, doesn't mean they were doomed to continually be bad with no avenue for improvement. This is objectively false.
Nahhhhhh. There's space between "never being good" and "being a mediocre playoff team". Even when you are shown top be wrong, you still double down on being wrong.
There are a lot of "we should have traded player X then" ideas floating around here - it just highlights how Stone is ultimately risk averse and this team loses value on the assets we spent years cultivating as a result. It cost us asset value AND time. That's the weakness of Stone's risk mitigation strategy is he doesn't factor in opportunity cost as much as he should.
What would be the point? Can you fire the owner? Not sure on spending energy on Fertita. Unless you know of some Sterling level of news, we are stuck with him and his kids.
At the moment we have $107million dollars either unavailable for this series at the moment (KD currently questionable for Game 2) or sitting on the bench effectively worthless(DFS). I will agree that **** happens in the form of injuries and longer than expected recovery times but Stone has to be held accountable for spending more than half of our cap money on players with significant injury concerns in recent history. There is nothing wrong with any one of those signings per se - but if you asked me in 2024 to place a bet on whether 32yr old Fred would be injured for the 2026 playoffs I would probably have said likely yes and answered the same way about 32 yr old Stevo, 37 year old KD, and hobbling around injured 32 year old DFS. No one is arguing that injuries aren't part of the game - but a GM is suppose to make sure we haven't over invested in too many players who share the same risk. If this were stocks half of our stocks are invested in the same risky industry. There is a reason the best portfolio managers balance risk across a portfolio.
it’s not objectively false. It’s your opinion. I have a different opinion. We’ll agree to disagree. Stone didn’t sleep with my wife, or smack my kid, or say nasty things about me. I don’t have a personal beef with him. I just don’t think he’s a great GM. I think he’s a contract lawyer and I think a real basketball person can do better on the player/personnel side. He never should have been given autonomy to build a team from scratch. That’s just not his expertise. So as we head into year 7 disappointed in the development of our “young core”, without a franchise player, overly reliant on a guy who will 38 next season, without a draft pick for the 2nd season in a row in a generational draft…Yes I think someone else could do better.
I'm just telling you how it works, and it's ultimately Tillman who isn't spending more on scouting and development or spending for better assistant coaches. Tillman can also fire Ime at the end of the season and eat the contract. Or Tillman can pay for better assistants and force Ime to use them.
It is objectively false that we had "total leverage over the Nets"..... when they can say no. That's a fact, not an opinion. Then you just use hyperbole to justify your opinion by claiming they could never compete with Bridges (while dismissing the various avenues that they could get better". Stone never had the "autonomy".... another use of hyperbole... that's not how NBA owners operate. Year 7? Sengun was drafted with Green and this is his 5th season..... You counting a full Harden season plus the season where we traded him? LOL..... we've had "3 generational drafts" in like 4 seasons.... I don't think you know what "generational" means. Of course someone could do better.... no one is arguing Stone is the best GM..... You brought up the Spurs GM.... they had quite a few years in the wilderness between Kawhi leaving and getting lucky by drafting Wemby.
Stone's skills at contract negotiations are solid. His player acquistions and drafting are mixed. What Stone is awful at is being the public face of the organisation.
Sorry if u make a move for kd you should be in the second apron. Teams that won or is contending is there...
This is scary. He would rather sign an injury-risky guy under market value so that if they stay healthy, he looks like a genius, and if they don't he can blame bad luck. For his career, these deals are low risk high reward, but not necessarily for the team.
I think Stone is the best GM in the NBA and it isn’t close. He knows what he’s doing and is one healthy FVV away from multiple rings.We need to extend him like he extended Udoka for another 5 years at whatever cost it takes before another team steals him from us. He brings lawyer skills to a role that no other team can match.
his first option was to give the 50 plus mill for Dean Wade who is absolute trash on the Cavs. Once that failed, he went for dfs.
I said “going into year 7”. Yes Stone was the GM of the 2020/2021 team. Next season will be year 7. Fair to point out that it doesn’t include this offseason. But yes, next season will be Stone’s 7th as GM. We’ll agree to disagree that Stone should have gotten more for those Nets picks considering the Nets had no good alternatives. Detroit, Cleveland, and Houston were all rebuilding at the same time. Just look at where they were picking in the 2021 draft. I think Detroit and Cleveland have done a better job team building over this time. Not to mention San Antonio. But we’ve certainly done better than Toronto and Orlando. We’re middle of the pack.
By take a chance... you feel these are players you give up assets for a half season rental and then need to resign in the offseason?
What exactly have Detroit or Cleveland done that suggests to you their FO has done a better job than ours? Detroit got lucky to get Cade in the draft and we didn't; but even with that luck advantage they still have not won a playoff series, just lost game one to a #8 seed, and they have way fewer draft assets going forward. They won a few more games in the regular season this year and had a 2 pt higher net rating than us in an awfully weak Eastern conference, in a season where they had perfect health, that's it. Cleveland has the highest tax bill in the NBA and has traded away all their picks and swaps to win the same number of games as us this year with a worse net rating; not to mention they crumble in the playoffs every year like clockwork. Impossible to argue they are in a better situation than us.
