[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

What a loser.

How many times is he going to threaten and then do nothing.

The guy threatens his critics that are conservative--- threatens the Pope..... threatens the Ukrainians.... threatens his allies abroad.... threatens the Iranians and he never follows through on anything.

He is just a massive blow hard.

It is cringe.

 

Of course you don't.[/QUOTE]

Strikes are always the easy part for that crowd. It's the aftermath that they always **** up and learn nothing from.

 

Here is what Trump really wants to tweet to everybody not him:

"You are all a bunch of losers and I conned you all!"

 

There was some kind of edgy boldness to it in 2015, now he just looks pathetic and like the dude that wanders out in the street naked at 2am with sundowning

 

A whole bunch of the military blog people I follow seem to think this war is going to be back on shortly. The US military is still delivering TONS of stuff to the ME. The Iranians are talking and acting like they are Biff Tannen and Trump is Marty McFly.

The only question is how much **** Trump is willing to eat to avoid getting back into it. Because the Iranians right now are absolutely trying to shovel mountains of **** down Trump's throat and he's been eating it all with a smile so far. But they are absolutely baiting the hell out of him.

Right now, the Iranians are acting like they aren't even planning to show up for the big peace negotiations, claiming the US hasn't implimented the ceasefire terms that were mutually agreed upon ($10 billion in funds released, ceasefire in Lebanon.)

JD Vance may be showing up to negotiate with an empty room.

 

I have a feeling we can stop the Lebanon fiasco, if Israel would do the right thing., but I don't see tramp giving them their $10 million......hell, he wouldn't give back a $100.00 if his life depended on it............I don't see it happening and besides they sent Whitcoff and Kushner back with JD.....talk about a DEI crew, Whitcoff and Kushner are like 0-7 between Russia, Ukraine and Iran

The donald is going to be pushed into a corner even further, if he were smart, he would pack up and declare Victory and get out. But......lets be real, that isn't gonna happen, the bombing will begin again, and we shall see if they hit bridges and power plants

All this for Mother Israel............................BiBi must have some dang good "goods" on the orange blob.

 

So in summer 2025 - 0 weapons
March 2026 - 11 weapons.

 

Reminder: We are in this mess because of what he did almost 8 years ago. He is great at breaking things. For what? Personal reasons.

Eight Years in the Making: The True Cost of Leaving the JCPOA
Mar 21, 2026

Every chain has a first link. This one was forged on May 8th, 2018.

That afternoon, Trump withdrew the United States from the JCPOA — the Iran nuclear deal. He called it “defective at its core.” What it actually was: a 97% reduction in Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile, two-thirds of its centrifuges dismantled, the Arak plutonium pathway filled with concrete, IAEA inspectors with unprecedented access, and a twelve-month breakout time to a nuclear weapon. Iran was complying. Every major Western intelligence agency said so. Trump’s own State Department had certified compliance six times.

In Washington, Britain’s Ambassador Sir Kim Darroch had spent weeks carrying European objections to the White House. That afternoon he wrote a classified cable to London:

“The administration is set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons — it was Obama’s deal. Moreover, they can’t articulate any ‘day-after’ strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region.”

No day-after strategy. No plan for allies. Diplomatic vandalism for personality reasons.

....

Sir Kim Darroch was right about everything. He was right in real time, on the day it happened, before a single consequence had materialized. He named the motive, identified the absence of a plan, and predicted the isolation of allies with the precision of a man who had spent his career watching how power actually works when it stops pretending to be anything other than what it is.

The bill he described is the bill being paid right now — in the Strait of Hormuz, in the flag-draped coffins of six Americans who died without the drone defense they had requested, mourned in a Truth Social post from a Florida resort, in the enriched uranium stockpile whose location is not fully verified, in the Marines redeploying from Okinawa to secure the material that the JCPOA had kept monitored and contained, in the oil revenue flowing to Tehran tonight from a sanctions waiver signed by the administration of the man who tore the deal up in the first place.

History does not grade on intent. It grades on consequence. And the consequences of May 8th, 2018 are not behind us. They are still arriving.

 

How are you gonna ruin your own countries economy with this dumbass war and tariffs and then talk about strengthening someone else’s? He truly doesn’t give a fck about the American people.

 

American First at its finest.
Election interference.
All for the benefit of his loyal friend, Orban.

Ideological alignment isn’t an acceptable justification. Imagine Obama using the economic might of the US to help another country’s leader simply because they are ideologically aligned and a loyal friend, and doing it right as that country is heading into an election. The impeachment bells would be deafening.

 

Trump is an Orban dick-rider. Project 25 was inspired by how Orban has stripped away democracy and subjected Hungary to fascism.

 

True, and Orban is tight with Putin. So much winning. Today he's bragging about his giant biggest in the world arch again. He is so damn out of touch with the American people it's nauseating. It's all about his vanity projects and wars now. None of that helps our citizens. Electric bills, grocery bills, gas costs, and more are rising, and millions still can't afford healthcare or basic survival needs. But, there will be big beautiful ballrooms and arches, his wife gets her own luxury jet, and the Trump family is reaping in billions.

 

Found this comment on the Fox News website. Even Rs are turning on him and realizing who he is.

Pay close attention to the way Donald Trump is now talking about Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Alex Jones, Candace Owens, and Megyn Kelly. These are not "woke libs," (and they are definitely not turning Democrat) they’re far-right people who spent years — most for over a decade — backing, supporting, and defending him and the entire MAGA movement.

The moment they dared to question anything he’s said or done, he turned on them — and he’ll do the same thing to any one of you.

The moment any of you stand up to him and call him out, he’ll label you the same "low-IQ traitor.”

Because it’s not about holding him accountable, it’s about all of you worshipping everything he says and does to feed his ego, even if what he says and does today completely contradicts what he said and did yesterday.

The only person Donald Trump has ever cared about — and will ever care about — is himself.


The majority of sane people (even though they are still POS for voting for him at any point) are done supporting him, and then you have the few cultists like a handful on this forum that are still simping for him.

 

I just hate to see conservative v conservative violence ...


Conservative burns 'rage-addled dimwit' president in pitiless take-down

Conservative columnist Kevin Williamson warns people “not to make the mistake of overcomplicating [President] Donald Trump.”

“He’s a simple man whose actions are … described as the ordinary daily application of his vices: laziness, vindictiveness, greed, vanity, arrogance, cowardice, and, above all, stupidity,” said Williamson in the Dispatch. “He is a rage-addled dimwit with a savantic gift for manipulating lesser fools and a vulnerability to manipulation by men who are similarly vicious but more capable: Vladimir Putin, J.D. Vance, Stephen Miller, even one or two of his idiot children.”

“Stronger men can push him around, and weaker men succeed by flattering him,” added Williamson. “His enemies can manipulate him at least as easily as his allies.” Nevertheless, Trump must be taken seriously — at least “in the sense that one may take a brain tumor as a serious thing but not a thing you’d have an argument with or lose a chess match to.”

Leaders in Iran appear to know this.

“Trump’s escalating threats against Iran leapt very quickly from mere war crimes to outright genocide, and the bosses in Tehran ran that through their Trump decoder rings to reveal the true message: “I am terrified by the closing of the Strait of Hormuz and have no idea how to get myself out of this mess,” said Williamson.

Tehran took him up on his ceasefire talk not because they were “cowed by his imbecilic threats” but because a ceasefire brings reparations and a promise to pull U.S. forces from the Middle East, along with other bountiful demands.

And of course, Trump went for it.

“To whom could he turn for advice?” asked Williamson. “Secretary of State Marco Rubio is an oleaginous little sycophant, and he probably is the best of the lot, standing head and shoulders above Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, a Fox News clown whose great achievement so far has been to avoid appearing obviously drunk on the job.”

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, meanwhile, is a “conspiracy kook and Putinist who is so wildly incompetent that even Trump seems to have noticed; Deputy National Security Adviser Robert Gabriel Jr.’s great qualification for the post is having been a producer on Laura Ingraham’s insipid talk show.”

Winning in Iran is a political project, requiring intelligence, imagination, and courage, said Williamson, “qualities that Donald Trump does not possess.”


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I was attempting to use hyperbole to make the point that "cracking down on conversion therapy for trans youths," would qualify as discriminatory and go against the party's platform.

 

In many ways Trumps handling of this is a good thing. The Ayatollah and a ton of despotic leaders perish, key nuclear infrastructure is crippled, but no one wants to step up to replace them. islamic radicals will kill themselves to stay in power, and the sensible people won't. so iran stays stuck in the same cycle.

it makes the transition to Vance that much easier for the public. this was netanyahu tricking trump to act on his own accord. this was trump making true of words he spoke decades ago when talking about the Iranians, perhaps catering to his own ego. But the level headed republicans didn't think it would result in meaningful change.

Newsom cannot defeat a reasonable, level headed Rubio or Vance who would suffocate Iran economically in the future when they act up, instead of bomb. He would only have a chance against a self imploding type like trump who gives the impression they pander to Israel.

 

So you're saying this was a dumb thing to do, Trump got played by Netanyahu, and Vance will somehow be able to distinguish himself from this? You spent months tying Harris to Biden because she was his VP yet you somehow think Vance will come out of this looking independent from Trump? That isn't how the public has ever perceived VPs.

You're also foolish if you think GOP primary voters want separation from Israel. The evangelical base won't tolerate it because unyielding support for anything Israel does is a key ingredient in their Jesus apocalypse alchemy.