[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Iran was openly working towards developing nuclear weapons. Did you not know that? WOW


GOOD DAY

 

No, the reason ships aren't passing the strait of Hormuz is because Iran "closed" the strait in violation of international law.

The United States engaging in military conflict with Iran is not an excuse for Iran to violate international law by "closing" an international water way.

 

lol

 

LMAO you talking about violating international law is hilarious. Please shut up.

 

Sorry you don't like dealing with facts sweetheart.

 

You are funny.

The strait was open before Trump and Netanyahu decided to attack Iran.

Indeed, Trump had to know (or should have known) that this would happen.

The Iranian parliament had voted to shut it down the last time that the USA and Israel bombed Iran.

You remember that? The time that Trump got on television and claimed that the nuclear capabilities of Iran were crippled for "many, many years".

So, Iran deciding to make such a move shouldn't be a surprise.

Iran shut down the strait after their leader was assassinated and the President of the USA said that he was going to commit war crimes and wipe out a civilization of nearly 100 million people.

So, I don't want to hear any crying about violating international law, when that is SOP for this administration.

You know it is bad when an argument can be made that the Iranian regime isn't the one acting in bad faith.

The strait has gone from empty - to close, with Iran collecting massive tolls, and the payment not even being made in US dollars.

What it comes down to is that Trump is an exceptional campaigner, and an all time inept President........ the man has found a way to be in fights with all of the US allies, his media supporters, former cabinet members and supporters and even the Pope. China and Russia don't even bother to respond to his tantrums.

What also is being lost in all of this? The "peace" isn't because of the Trump administration, it is because China told Iran to come to the table.

 

I don't Vance coming to agreements with Iran.

Vice President JD Vance said on Friday that he thinks negotiations with Iran to end the six-week war will be “positive,” while warning Tehran’s diplomatic team not to “play us.”

But Iranian parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, a reported negotiator for Tehran, appeared to pour cold water on the meetings on Friday morning.

“Two of the measures mutually agreed upon between the parties have yet to be implemented: a ceasefire in Lebanon and the release of Iran’s blocked assets prior to the commencement of negotiations,” Ghalibaf said in a post on X.

“These two matters must be fulfilled before negotiations begin,” he wrote.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/10/iran-war-vance-negotiations-trump-oil-hormuz-strait.html

 

Nobody said it was a surprise.

I said shutting down the Strait is a violation of international law. Which it is.

The U.S./Israel attacking Iran doesn't give Iran any justification, legal or otherwise, to start violating international law including "closing" international water ways.

 

I haven't tallied it, but it's probably, what, at least half of his former cabinet members don't have anything good to say about him, and often vice versa.

That's amazing. I guess working with the guy makes people woke or something.

 

A response to a war is not due to the war. Perfect logic.

Legality is important, but nobody seems to care about it once the war starts. If you did, you would support impeaching and removing the POTUS for starting an illegal war.

If there were no war and Iran took this action, everyone would be on them.

 

The U.S./Israel attacking Iran doesn't give Iran any justification, legal or otherwise, to start violating international law including "closing" international water ways.

 

Oh, I think it does.

When you are being attacked by two nations, and the President of the United States says that he is going to kill an entire civilization of people, numbering nearly 100,000,000 people.

When the leader of an invading nation claims genocide and the murder of tens of millions of civilians, women and children..... that kind of trumps closing down a strait adjacent to your land.

 

Like they care whether it is illegal or not. They are doing what is needed to survive, and exactly what US intelligence has predicted for decades.

Trump has asked for international help, including from China, to reopen the strait.

To me, the best way to reopen it is for the US to impeach and remove Trump and stop the war. If Iran then refused to reopen the strait after that, the international community would take action, including military action, to force Iran to reopen it. But as long as Trump is still the US president, no one, including our allies, is willing to commit their military when the US is led by someone who cannot be trusted, who started an illegal war without consultation from anyone, and who is viewed as unpredictable and as the cause of the issue in the first place.

But since the US does not care enough about legality to remove a president who started an illegal war and threatened to use illegal actions in conducting it, this entire discussion is moot anyway. IOW, when you start something illegal, you have nothing to stand on to demand legal behavior from the other side. Fix that first, then you actually have something to stand on.

 

You can think whatever you want. You're wrong.

International law is clear Iran has no legal right to close the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran is presently violating international law through their actions.

Whether anyone is willing to do anything about it is a different question.

 

Cool story bro.

The subject at hand and my posting concerned the legality of Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz.

I know you don't want wish to tackle that because there is only one answer, "Yes, Iran is violating international law and I condemn that."

I'm not falling for your whole "Lets move the conversation over here" schtick.

 

America beleives in EXTREME REVENGE
If 100 Girls were killed. . ..we would have to kill 100 000 of them
before we think of talkin peace

Rocket River

 

have you ever heard of red herring?

that's inadequate to describe your argument here

but hey, if all you care about is academic argument, go ahead and piss into the wind

 

Blah, blah, blah. I refuse to address the issue at hand and instead pick up my toys and go home.

Imagine being an apologist for the Iranian regime and bending over backwards to excuse their clear and unambiguous violations of international law.

Typical leftist.

The Islamic regime isn’t going to like you no matter how much you simp for them Amiga.

 

LOL, not only are you making a point that matter not, but you also can't read.

Typical HTM. When you can't make a logical sensible argument, claim the other side is with the enemy.

 

You are a joke. And a horrible person. MAGA as an ideology is extinct. Its literally too stupid to survive.