[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

How?

 

You don't have to abandon your values. But you need to prioritize to win elections. Heck, Trump won in part because of ANTI-WAR, AMERICAN FIRST. Of course, anyone listening a bit more closely would realize, he has only one value and nothing else: whatever is good for Trump (and maybe also some of his billionaire friends).

 

Amigo, the issue is that Democrats' policy positions have moved so far left that the religious right (and religious center) finds them repulsive. The religious right prioritizes FAMILY values, honesty, work ethic (earning it), law and order, and freedom. Democrats shove LBGTQ+ issues down our throats, are weak on crime, promote DEI, openly lie and cheat in elections and in the media, leave the border wide open for illegal immigration, and locked us down during COVID. Each of those Democrat actions run counter to family values, honesty, work ethic, law and order, and freedom. It's the simple. Democrats have moved waaaaaay too far left.

Family values
Honesty
Worth ethic
Law and order
Freedom

Get these right and you have a strong society. Democrats oppose them all through their actions.


GOOD DAY

 

Wtf are you talking about? Where did I say leftists are a minority group? That doesn’t even make sense. Respond to what is actually posted

 

This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a while. Congrats.

 

FIFY

 

Trump regime is gonna threaten him again

 

The NYT is at it again. The dude advocated for massive war, when limited strike was an option.

Vance Faces Test of His Negotiating Skills With Iran Talks - The New York Times
Weeks after Vice President JD Vance privately warned President Trump of the costs of a full-scale U.S. war with Iran, he is now leading the charge to negotiate an end to the conflict.

 

Related to the current corner we have boxed ourselves into, 115 of 195 ambassadorial posts remain unfilled by this administration.

On the other hand, that might be good because it means there are not enough crazy wealthy MAGA loons to reward with a post.

 

LOL

 

So that everyone is aware, the reason ships aren't passing through the Strait of Hormuz at the volume that we would like to see is because ship owners are concerned about the threat of violence and terrorism from Iran. The slower traffic is not because Iran has military control over the Strait... it's the terrorist threat. These people are the scum of the earth -- low IQ, dishonest, cowardly terrorists. It's why they can never possess a nuclear weapon -- which was the successful mission that our Armed Forces executed on.

So the people cheering because the US hasn't "taken control of the Strait" are actually cheering in support of a terroristic threat suppressing global commerce. Think about how backwards that is. But think about how backwards an Islamic theocracy is... truly misguided people.


GOOD DAY

 

Chicken and egg prpblem. Roughly 95% of the time the candidate with the most money wins. The 5% is often explained by the passing at 80 plus by an incumbent. About 95% of incumbents usually have the money win. The money comes from the foes of DECREASED income inequality who are handsomely funded in their campaigns. Ofc course the billionaire press dominated by six? companies doesn't help. Witness the basically totally brainwashed little MAGA evidenced by the usual suspects on this forum.

 

Discuss what values you would be abandoning.

Catering to worse instincts? Give me examples of what you think that would.

Who said anything about claiming that climate change isn't real?
Who said anything about claiming children shouldn't get free school lunches.... in fact I would argue that the government hasn't done very much for the people since Reagan.
Ban books?

Defend minority groups? Explain what you think this means.

 

The reason that ships are not passing through the Strait of Hormuz is because Donald Trump decided to attack Iran and grossly miscalculated what would happen. Now the dollar isn't the currency in the region, there are fees that were not there and no one can get through.

 

All the items you cited are very temporary, with the last two being measured in days -- while Iran not possessing nukes is a long term benefit (decades).

Why do liberals struggle to think long term? Awareness of this issue can help them.


GOOD DAY

 

[QUOTE="RB713, post: 16125871, member: 66815"]Iran leaders talking mad **** again. Trump needs to get back up and finish them like mortal kombat[/QUOTE]

 

Vance is literally willing to do anything to become the face of the Republican Party.

He is throwing Trump under the bus, and at some point, Trump will return the favor.

 

Iran never had nukes to begin with. In 2003 you were 100% defending the Iraq war citing WMDs in Iraq

 

you're responding to a bot

some of you all are so clueless

 

Luckily for Vance, Trump has a history of peaceful breakups with his other VPs.