[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

The problem is all the centrist Democrats are the bought-and-paid-for Corporatist Democrats. For the most part, centrist among Democrats tends to equal compromised.

Maybe if you eject all the career politicians, but if it's the Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Friends Show, no thanks. I'd rather lose and keep my soul intact.

 

Yup. A lot of it is common sense… Democrats need to be open minded about religion and embrace religious people into the party … avoid extreme social positions. They need to respect individuality and really hammer the income inequality and provide actual services that help not only the poorest but most people- like daycare etc.

 

Don’t have to be - focus can be on income inequality. Even Bernie Sanders typically discusses the middle and working class.

 

I mean, based on recent results it looks like they are pretty much in a position where people would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican.

It seems like the only criteria you need to win at the moment is "not a Republican".

I'm happy to drop the Gen Z gender stuff, but corporate centrist Democrats are always doom-and-glooming the left for being too radical, almost like the Republicans.

Like they were all screaming the Mamdani couldn't possibly win because he was using the "S" word and was talking about scary radical concepts. I'm done with the chicken little crap. Good candidates who are sincere and can connect with voters will be fine. They don't need to pass a centrist imposed purity test.

What they need is charasmatic candidates who can look voters in the eye, clearly deliver their message and leave them feeling good about their leadership. Anything else is gravy.

Trump spent his entire campaign against Joe Biden in 2020 trying to portray the most white bread middle-of-the-road Democrat ever (with a career full of reciepts to prove it) as a radical Communist in disguise and it pretty much worked. They thow that label on everybody who isn't a Repubican.

Kamala Harris' political positions were basically centrist Democratic Party platform positions. Her problem (and it pains me) is that she was a black woman from The People's Republic of California so when Trump called her a radical leftist Commie, Bubba Truck-Nuts watching Fox News believed it was true, irrespective of what her actual political positions were.

 

Donald Trump is a lifelong Democrat, still is... Difference is he still managed to somewhat show support for the conservative base which then became his ticket to precedency. Had The Democrat party let him run for them instead his true nature would be on display. He is actually somewhat centrist but has to cater to Republicans. Donald isn't stupid just not ethical. I'd vote for a Democrat that wasn't far left but those don't exist. They all got caught up with TDS...

 

UAE trying to beat the measly European nations to the chase. It was always going to be the GCC countries who have to take charge, it's their lifeline. Unfortunately their militaries suck from an organizational perspective.

Heck of a lot easier for dems to waddle around on here circle jerking each other than listen to what the intelligent people are thinking. They're all teenage girls with selfie sticks and the adults know Iran has no one supporting them because they've never known how to do business with the world.

No wonder all the sane people left their party years ago.

Dr Sultan Al Jaber on LinkedIN

Iran has made clear - through both its statements and actions - that passage is subject to permission, conditions and political leverage.

That is not freedom of navigation. That is coercion. The Strait was not built, engineered, financed or constructed by any state. It is a natural passage governed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which guarantees transit as a matter of right; not a privilege to be granted, withheld or weaponized. Conditional passage is not passage. It is control by another name.

The Strait must be open - fully, unconditionally and without restriction. Energy security and global economic stability depend on it. The weaponization of this vital waterway, in any form, cannot stand. This would set a dangerous precedent for the world – undermining the principle of freedom of navigation that underpins global trade and, ultimately, the stability of the global economy.

An estimated 230 vessels sit loaded with oil and ready to sail. They, and every vessel that follows, must be free to navigate this corridor without condition. No country has a legitimate right to determine who may pass and under what terms. Energy producers must be able to swiftly and safely restore production at scale. At ADNOC, we have loaded cargoes and we will expand production within the constraints of the damage we have suffered. We have a responsibility to our customers and our partners to move them, as long as the safety of our people is ensured.

The UAE has reiterated its position that following the substantial and illegal attacks on UAE civil and energy infrastructure, Iran must be held accountable and fully liable for damages and reparations.

 

Bro… ur cookin

 

This is what's hilarious about leftists. They pivoted even more to the left after Mamani won because hey... that's the future! It works! Free everything and empty promises that aren't feasible trick people into voting!

The facts suggest otherwise. Less than 30% of New Yorkers voted, and Cuomo outperformed with American born New Yorkers. It was only the dominance with foreign born Americans and women under 30 (by promising free everything) that gave Madani a narrow win because Sliwa didn't step down. Now Hochul is begging the eroding tax base to come back and they're raising property taxes on the middle class! In a city where anything under $250k a year is poverty. We're only a few months in, but it's implosion at it's finest. The left always eat each other because it's never enough --- so sit back and enjoy the ride.

The arrogance of their delusions become more comical each day. In the age of information, candidates won't win you elections. Policies do.

Being a wide eyed activist that calls everyone Hitler makes you popular online, but turns away the sane real life people that make the world go round.

 

I'm not comfortable with abandoning values, catering to peoples' worst instincts and prejudices, and rolling back the rights of marginalized groups simply to win elections. That's exactly what led us to where we are today with Trump.

What's next, you gonna start waving snowballs on the House floor and denounce global warming? Say, yeah, **** school lunches for needy kids? Ban some books?

You can have an agenda that prioritizes economic policies and programs that serve the needs of the needy and working class, reducing debt through targeted tax increases on corporations and the uber-rich, and still sticking up for minority groups.

 

Iran leaders talking mad **** again. Trump needs to get back up and finish them like mortal kombat

 

How many kids will Bibi the war criminal kill, displace, and inflict serve trauma on in Lebanon? Our tax dollars fund and support this guy. That's so disgusting.

About 600 children killed or injured in Lebanon since March 2, 2026. UNICEF is receiving reports of young children being pulled from under rubble, while others remain missing, separated from their families, or suffering severe trauma after losing loved ones and homes.

More than one million people have been uprooted nationwide, including an estimated 390,000 children. Many of these children have been displaced multiple times, with no safe place to go.

UNICEF stressed that international humanitarian law is clear: civilians, including children, must be protected at all times. The agency called for an immediate end to the violence and urged all parties to prioritise the safety and well-being of Lebanon’s children amid the ongoing conflict.

https://www.businessupturn.com/worl...stating-and-inhumane-toll-on-children-unicef/

 

What does this mean, and which religious people aren’t welcomed into the party? The ones who are 100% against abortion and are hardcore anti-LGBT?

 

UNICEF might as well be speaking an unknown alien language, because Satanyahu and his puppet Trump won’t care about anything they’re talking about

they will continue to target civilians or civilian infrastructure with no consequences…Trump only got some slight pushback when he started talking about totally ending Iranian civilization, but he bombed that little girls school killing 170 kids and it was really no big deal

 

I don’t know glynch. Over the years I’ve been pessimistic that the hypnosis and corruption can be broken, but something is DIFFERENT this time.

It’s always normal for young people to be more passionate about change but I’m seeing an exponential shift. It’s not just the regular passion of the past few decades. There’s a total and complete rejection of past ideas and a willingness to entertain more radically positive ideas.

I see the same thing from people in their 30’s to 50’s. There’s an amount of openness to “maybe I’ve been thinking about this all wrong” that seems unprecedented.

People above 50 are a lost cause. They’re too invested in these politics and this economy.

I know there’s advantages/disadvantages of looking at things from outside the box, but from where I’m sitting - for once - I’m sensing something is close to igniting. The insulated people have been milked to death and they are ironically showing signs of life. I don’t know if there’s much more that can be stolen from Americans and the powers that be have thrown them to the side in search of more people to rob abroad.

 

Can you imagine if Iran bombed a school of 170 kids in the US? Do you think he and his red hatters would say it's no big deal? Do you think for a second we wouldn't retaliate? Would we just say, ok, let's do a ceasefire? Not only no, but hell no we wouldn't. I'd want to retaliate too.

 

you’re right

if they had bombed and killed over a hundred little girls here, it would be called an act of terrorism, it would become a date for the rest of history like 9/11, and we’d be ready to invade

but this is some brown people across the globe we know are too far away to really do anything on American soil, and America is always right and always just/the hero so that’s how the story will be told

 

this has been Graham Platner’s strategy, and it seems to be working

if you’ll sell out one minority group, you’ll sell out others when the time comes if you think it’s convenient

he refuses to give in to republican framing on issues