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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. Mathloom

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    You must love puppet shows.
     
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    Who the F is we? You ain’t one of us jizzhasist.
    Mossad is coming after your jizzhasist ass.

     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    1) The leadership is all dead.

    2) False, ships have begun to flow. Additionally, opening the strait of Hormuz is a condition of the cease fire. If violated, then the destruction of Iran continues.

    3) Iran's nuclear ambitions have been set back decades. Their army is crushed and their industrial production supply chain is crushed.


    Facts matter, amigos. You've got to keep up with the truth -- not Iranian propaganda repeated online. This is a low moment, intellectually, for the American liberal. They'll believe anything that they think could hurt Trump -- it's making them look like buffoons and also openly rooting against the heroes in our Armed Forces.


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    Praise be to Jesus. Jizzhadist Baghdad Bob aka astro123 repent now or risk the wrath of my Lord and Savior.
     
  5. astros123

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    MAGATs - strait of hormuz is open guys Trump said so!
    IRGC

     
  6. Amiga

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    If you love the Iranian war, give this admin $1.5T for the next conquests.
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    Imagine being so emotional and low IQ that you accept an unnamed Iranian person’s word as the truth! Stunning!

    as a note it’s also hard to move 15 ships a day through something that is “closed”. LOL


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    -Iran has the same amount of enriched uranium right now than they did before the war
    - Iran has not tried rebuilding their enriched uranium facilities since last year according to trumps own Intel

    Literally not a damn thing has changed in this war. Your dumbass propaganda doesn't work here
     
  9. astros123

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    I don't need to take their word for it. Less than 10 ships passed yesterday in total. We're seeing the data backing their claims. We're not cultists here
     
  10. Reeko

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    Didn’t he just appoint JD Vance as the “Fraud Czar” like 2 days ago? Now he’s leading negotiations with Iran too?

    if that’s not a fall guy, Idk what is
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Some people do not understand what a strategic loss means. Yes, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq were all failures, but in each case, the US walked away with the adversary controlling nothing of global consequence. The Taliban controls a landlocked, resource-poor country. Saddam was removed, even if what replaced him was chaos. Vietnam stung, but Ho Chi Minh never had his hand on a global chokepoint.

    Now look at where we are with Iran. The war is not over, but the writing is on the wall. The regime is still standing. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz, roughly 20% of the world's oil supply passes through it. And Iran has made zero meaningful concessions on its nuclear capabilities. We went in with the stated goals of preventing a nuclear Iran and regime change, and we are coming out with neither. What we did accomplish is handing Iran more leverage than it had before the war started.

    On the nuclear question, a negotiated deal is probably the likely outcome, but it is far from certain. The hardliners have been bloodied and are now more motivated than ever to become a nuclear power. That said, if Iran locks in permanent strategic control of the Strait of Hormuz, that may actually be as powerful a deterrent as a nuclear weapon, at least for the next few decades until the world meaningfully shifts away from oil. They may not need the bomb if they own the chokepoint.

    This is what makes it arguably the worst strategic loss in modern American history. And unlike Vietnam or Afghanistan, there is no Cold War logic or post-9/11 pressure to explain it. It was an elective war, started in the middle of active negotiations. This is 100% preventable and 100% self-inflicted.

    Iran is no mastermind, we are just led by idiots.
     
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    This dumbass thinks he can spend months disrespecting European allies threaten them with military invasion over Greenland and then suddenly issue a ultimatum at gun point for their help

    This is the dumbest American administration in history
     
  13. Amiga

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    Almost everyone who has worked for Trump, in his past businesses, his first administration, and now his second, eventually gets burned. The only ones who may escape intact are those who walk away on their own terms. JD won't be an exception. But as VP, he will absolutely be a tool. This is an observable pattern with a long and consistent track record.
     
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    1) You might want to let them know. As far as I can tell, the same western hostile Islamic theocracy still runs the country.

    2) False? So Iran doesn't control the Strait? Then who does? The fairy godmother? The Strait isn't open, especially to the US, and Iran is controlling who comes and goes. That is a disaster.

    3) Trump said that a year ago, too. But apparently it wasn't true then. So, how do we know it's true now?

    You need to start showing your work. This is dogwater, even by your standards.

    F-

    See me after class.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    But you said the Strait of Hormuz was closed? How do 10 ships pass through something that's closed? Your logic is very poor.

    And remember, yesterday was just hours after the cease fire was agreed to... it takes time to get ships moving... Your logic and experience is really getting exposed here. Emotions have taken over, amigo! Sorry that your team lost the conflict!


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  16. Amiga

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    Nice additional at the end, lol
     
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    No deals should be made with psycho terrorists; this will blow up again very soon.
     
  18. astros123

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    Bcz those ships got permission from the IRGC to pass. Are you playing a character or are you this stupid in real life? I sincerely can't tell if you're just trolling.



    Quit embarrassing yourself in this thread. The strait is closed and you pretending its open just makes you look like a sincere dumbass
     
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  19. Amiga

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    The day before the ceasefire - 10 ship passed through.
    The day after the ceasefire - 5 ship passed through. All dry ships (not carrying oil).

    None of this matter though. It's the fact that Iran is in control and dictate when, who, and for how much.
     
  20. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Jizzhadist Baghdad Bob aka astro123 is the mouthpiece for the Mullahs.
     

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