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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. mtbrays

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    Because, at his core, he's a shitty reality TV salesman. Those were his credentials before becoming president.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    The Art of The Deal


    GOOD DAY
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    They didn’t
     
  4. Amiga

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    I believe this is one side only. This is Trump taking the off‑ramp offered by Pakistan (or by the US through Pakistan, but whatever; at least it stops the madness). It extends Trump's deadline.

    (except for the US wanting it) no one has agreed to a ceasefire
     
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    as of now, there is no reporting that Iran has agreed to open the Strait, but we’ll see

     
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    You low iq cultist know the Iranians agreed on giving up their entire stock of enriched uranium before the war started. Now we're trying to negotiate for something that they agreed on before the war for concessions we never had to give up. It's mind blowing just how dumb you people are.

    Iranians still haven't agreed on giving up it's uranium nor free passageway for the strait of hormuz
     
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  8. Amiga

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    [​IMG]

    This was the off-ramp message.

    "progressing steadily, strongly and powerfully" - want to guess where this came from?
     
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  9. justtxyank

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    Trump deserves massive praise. No other president could have done this. We killed a 100 year old radical Islamist leader and replaced him with his son and made no other changes to the status quo. All at the low cost of billions and billions of dollars.

    ART OF THE DEAL

    GOOD DAY
     
  10. El_Conquistador

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    The Iranians have been lying about their weapons program for 47 years. They simply cannot be trusted. Their religion INSTRUCTS them to lie.

    And yet you believe them? How naive, amigo!


    GOOD DAY
     
  11. jchu14

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    Dang, a true ceasefire would have been too much to hope for I guess.

    The world still has to thank Pakistan for giving Trump an off ramp before possibly killing millions because Trump painted himself into a corner with the ultimatums.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    Iran says they’ve agreed as well and will open the straight when they can. They claim that the us has agreed to their 10 point proposal which includes letting them continue to enrich uranium
     
  13. astros123

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    If what they're claiming is true then it will be a unilateral surrender by Trump. The million dollar question is what happens to the enriched uranium + strait of harmuz. Let's wait to see what final details are
     
  14. justtxyank

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    id bet on them lying. Problem is both Iran and the USA are led by liars that are propped up by clapping penguins.
     
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    what did we get?

    ✔️ Key Clauses Reported in the 10‑Point Plan
    1. A permanent end to the war
    Iran rejects a temporary ceasefire and demands a full, lasting end to hostilities.

    2. End to all regional conflicts involving Iran or its allies
    This includes halting Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against Iranian‑aligned groups.

    3. Safe‑passage protocol for the Strait of Hormuz
    Iran agrees to reopen the strait under a formalized safety framework.

    4. Lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions
    Iran wants sanctions removed as part of the settlement.

    5. Reconstruction funding mechanism
    Iran proposes a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait of Hormuz, shared with Oman, to fund rebuilding of war‑damaged infrastructure.

    6. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
    Iran wants formal security assurances.

    7. Recognition of Iran’s right to enrich uranium under the NPT
    This was reported as one of the clauses.

    8. End to Israeli attacks on Hezbollah and Iranian allies
    A regional de‑escalation requirement.

    9. Removal of the effective blockade on the Strait of Hormuz
    In exchange for the above concessions, Iran would reopen the strait.

    10. Broader framework to end regional hostilities
    A long‑term regional security architecture, not just a U.S.–Iran bilateral deal

    * - List came from Copilot; accuracy not guaranteed; deal still being negotiated
     
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    If trump agreed to this then it will single handily be the most embarrassing thing we have ever agreed on. It's unilateral surrender
     
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    he’ll never admit to agreeing to this
     
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    Yeah, no way Trump agrees to let their 10 pt plan. He wants a piece of the pie, and won't give up on that. The 2 weeks ceasefire is just another stall tactic, because his threats weren't working. He sure as hell isn't going to agree to the 10 pt plan Iran wanted, or pay them repartitions for rebuilding infrastructure damaged by Israel and the US. either. I think this will keep dragging on, while billions are spent on this weekly, and Americans fork the bill. Its like they are going in circles at this point, and I wonder when it will ever really end.

    What country's next if he can't take Iran's oil? Nigeria? Will we start threatening to come save the lives of Nigerians next? Meanwhile, Putin and Orban sit back toasting with vodka as they watch Trump sh*t on Americans, alienate our western allies, divide our country, and spend billions depleting our stock of weapons, as Kim Jong Un fortifies his nuclear weapons.
     
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  19. deb4rockets

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    Trump never has and never will admit he is wrong. Even if this all ends with nothing gained other than killing leaders of Iran, and billions and billions of our tax dollars spent, hundreds of troops wounded, aircraft destroyed, and Americans killed, then he will declare it a huge win. He will declare it a win even if the heads of the snakes he bit off come back hating Americans even more, spurring up terrorist groups seeking revenge. When we bomb a school of girls, their families will never forget. Never.
     
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    "Iranian military management" doesn't seem like free passageway..?
     

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