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Are the "defensive" subs ever worth it? This dumbass coach is addicted to these late game blunders

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LosPollosHermanos, Apr 5, 2026.

  1. Sooner423

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    It's -10 net rating on the season
     
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    It’s like he’s becoming blind whenever he needs to evaluate the offense game. Yes, Aaron and Tate are better defenders than Reed. But what Reed brings to our offense game, should be evaluated higher than what we might lose on defense. Besides, Curry cooked us tonight despite Ime’s efforts to sub Reed whenever Curry was on the court. Meanwhile, we couldn’t run normal offense. So overall, GS almost-comeback was pretty much a result of Ime’s useless “defensive” rotations.
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    is holiday really?

    eye test and numbers dont even support it
     
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    It's not just Ime, coaches play the percentages. If the game woukd have been tighter throughout and the Rockets would've lost on a last second basket, fans would be saying why didn't he have Tari or Okogie in the game for defensive to better defend.

    There is going to always going to be an IF, OR, WHY, WHAT IF, if you or a head coach.
     
  5. YI89

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    I agree - I didn’t dive into the numbers, but on an eye test, Reed does not seem to be so bad.
     
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  6. a time to chill

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    The Rockets offense looks a lot better, they weathered a Steph Curry storm, and are enjoying the longest win streak of the season...but some people still want to complain about Udoka's rotations.


    Yall got UDS...Udoka Derangement Syndrome.
     
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    I think Ime is just trying to not get hurt more than he is looking for anything offensively to happen with these guys.

    What he's not realizing though is that regardless you cannot keep running this stupid Sengun as the point guard trying to force the ball to KD with 3 guys draped over him which leads to a turnover on 3/4th of these late game possessions.

    Ime doesn't have to play Reed if he's being a bonehead on defense in these possessions because I agree with Ime that Reed is absolute garbage with horrible mental awareness on defense.... However he MUST answer the question of what to run offensively instead of this late game garbage he runs that leads to KD turnovers trying to force the ball to him with 3 guys draped over him, and where he is unable to get the ball to any of the other guys cannot get the ball against good defenses.

    Ime's offense is damn near unwatchable on many nights where they actually have to play against tight half court defenses. EVERYTHING looks hard for this offense.
     
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  8. YI89

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    Did you watch the game? We were up by 14 with about 7 minutes to go. Then Kerr returned Steph to the court, and Ime took down Reed not much later. From that point they ran 24-11, mainly due to our clumsy offense plays. If Reed wasn’t subbed for so many minutes, I sure we could make at least one or two more buckets in our possessions and wouldn’t need that last seconds sequence to win this game.
    And it’s not the first time that we threw away a double-digit lead. It happened too many times, and we were lucky it didn’t happen again.
     
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    Curry was on a heater. You can argue that the lead would've gone up even more if he had left Reed in. The lineup kept them in striking distance so that Ime could draw up that KD/Sengun give and go play at the end to win the game.

    The usage of Reed has been fine. Im just happy the Rockets have seemed to figure things out on offense going into the playoffs (another coaching adjustment to prioritize off ball movement and spacing). Give credit when credit is due.
     
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    Did you watch the same game I did? They almost lost after being up with a sizable lead. Again. Yes its GS, but they have done that all season. And some is the fact we have zero bench, but he does not make adjustments. And to almost lose to a team that has only one star and is on minutes restriction is not something to be happy about. We will see what happens tomorrow against the Suns who wil have Booker, Brooks, and Jalen.
     
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    Don't Golden States turnover numbers go up and shooting percentages down with Reed in the game?
     
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    Udoka has made an adjustment to the offense and it's evident that they now have more of an offensive identity with this win streak they are on. You see more offball movement and screen setting rather than just having KD play iso ball at the top of the key in late game situations. They still have some execution issues which contributed to GSW almost winning, but by and large the Rockets have been playing well.
     
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    the big change they made is indeed more off ball movement, but this is also a result of inserting sheppard into the starters since they can't cheat and double/triple cover durant or senguin.

    If anything this underscores the coach's stubborness as this was evidence for most of the season.

    If the coach thinks that we need defense, then put JD in there. But you can't run a lineup with 3 non 3pt shooters in the modern NBA.

    It is next to impossible
     
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    Reed is the key to our offense.

    DD
     
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    But Reed's not a finished product. He's still developing so I'm not going to rip Udoka for how he uses him at this point. When he got the start I recall him playing well for the first game or two but then regressed. You don't want to rush the development process by putting too much on his plate before he's ready which could make things worse. And it certainly helps that Jabari has been shooting the ball better and Sengun is back to all star form, so can run more lineups with Amen as the lead guard to lean into their physicality.
     
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    @a time to chill
    But Stonedoka recently went to the lie, "This season is about developing the yutes," once we started our slide. Now we're back to winning (in spite of Udoka yesterday). So, if this season is about developing Reed, he sure has a short leash.

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  17. SuraGotMadHops

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    The "defensive" closeout lineup NEVER works. They end of giving up points in chunks anyway, and there's no offense on the floor to answer. I can't believe Ime is still doing this s***
     
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    Yeah that's why so many people agree with the posts i made in this thread and EVERYBODY thinks you're a d******d lol
     
  19. Dobbizzle

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    And this is why i have so many people cosigning my posts and nobody cosigning any of yours. Because you're actually r****ded. High not low key.
     
  20. Forza Juve

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    As people mentioned above the answer is never.

    Imam Ujoka is the no.1 basketball terrorist in the league playing jihad basketball, lul.
     
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