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Jabari Smith Jr. is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houston77, Jul 7, 2023.

  1. MrButtocks

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    That's because I'm taking Jabari's whole season into account and his role on the team, not just his recent play. I even brought up the Jalen Green example to demonstrate how we can't judge players by their hottest stretches. When Jalen went off in March of 2024 I didn't scream from the rooftops about how much he improved and that this was the true Jalen Green to expect going forward. I think most people realized even at the time that it might be a hot stretch. And indeed, he was still the same player he was in years prior.

    Sure, Jabari has played very well for the last 20 games. How was his first 46 games of the season? Why would I ignore those games in a season by season comparison?
     
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    Jatarbi is spesh, that's right
     
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    He's exhibited the following improvements for his season as a whole over his career averages:

    2P%: Up to 54.3% from 51.8%
    3P%: Up to 36.1% from 34.6%
    Assists per 100 possessions: Up to 2.7 from 2.2
    Turnovers per 100 possessions: Down to 1.8 from 1.9
    Steals per 100 possessions: Up to 1.1 from 1.0
    Fouls per 100 possessions: Down to 3.6 from 3.9
    Points per 100 possessions: Up to 22.3 from 20.8

    Nothing massive, but some decent all-around improvement.

    The only category that's down any significant amount is rebounds, which are down from 11.2 to 9.7 per 100 possessions. I mostly chalk that up to KD's presence though. KD is grabbing some of the rebounds Jabari had in the past been getting next to the shorter Dillon Brooks.
     
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    Capela and Steve-O probably are a bigger influence on Bari's rebounding numbers. They are in a different stratosphere than Jock as a backup. I don't get a sense that Bari is missing any boards he should be getting out there.
     
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    He did play next to Adams some last season, but good point. Probably some of all three? He's spent a lot more time playing next to 2-3 other tall players this season in general.
     
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    Most of those improvements had already been seen by Jabari's second season. A significant portion of Jabari's career averages include his rookie season. I said he's practically the same player as two years ago, as to exclude that terrible season.
     
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    Another way to phrase this might be that his 3rd season was pretty disappointing, but we just didn't notice it that much because we were all having fun. But even comparing his second season to this one, he's made some slight improvements, most notably related to increasing his role without losing efficiency. Having a career high in usage while matching or exceeding his best season so far in every category but rebounding (which we already discussed) is not a bad accomplishment.

    None of this means he will be a star player. I think that ship has more or less sailed, and I already thought that last season. But he's a very good roleplayer, and if he's the 4th or 5th best player on your team, you're doing well on depth.
     
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    I think we're in agreement in assessing Jabari as a player. I never even considered mentioning his decreased rebounding as a knock against him as the team structure is quite different since then. I appreciate that he can increase his usage slightly while maintaining the same efficiency, but his efficiency and percentages have only recently rebounded. Not long ago his shooting percentages were lower than even his third year. Hopefully he finishes the season strong.
     
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    JSJ looking good this game on the offensive end. Hitting threes. More than just a statue.
     
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    Locked down Curry on the last second play.
     
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    Glad we got him locked up on a great contract.
     
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    Credit where it's due, Jabari had a fantastic game tonight. Actually showed some of the potential he was hyped for. Nice to see tbh.
     
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    He is playing really well right now. And it’s needed.
     
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    This part.
    I will now take him off the tradeable list.

    He is coming long into his offense and defensive role.
     
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    Just raise the asking price. Jabari is good at what he does and his style of play but we almost just got clowned by a faster more fluid team whipping the ball around again.

    It’s going to happen in the playoffs and we’re going to lose despite Jabari’s good efficiency and good moments.

    We’re not going to get the caliber of player capable of getting this roster to championship level by only trading bad players that don’t have good games.
     
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    Some of yall out yall rabbit…@$$ minds - He’s been so solid since that 8 game slump and a lot of our 4th qtr issues would disappear if we stopped going into KD/Alpi turtle mode and stop moving the ball

    I would like to see him get 3-5 more shot attempts a game
     
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    I’ve been critical of Jabari. But, I like what I’m seeing from him lately. It seems he and his teammates are starting to figure out what he can and cannot do. Keeping it simple for Jabari is what works. Catch and shoot. Catch and drive.

    Don't ask him to create for others. Just make quick and decisive moves to score when the ball hits his hands. With Jabari less is more. Know your role and stick to it.
     
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