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Kon Knueppel or Reed Sheppard?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by chef0010, Apr 4, 2026.

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Who’s better? I’m talking long term

  1. Kon

    78.4%
  2. Reed

    21.6%
  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Kon obviously.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Despite being taller, K-nipple's defense makes Sheppard look like he's all defense. That's the ONLY thing that matters to Ime, so we'd never see what he can do on offense.

    K-nipple is a SF, who is Ime playing him over? KD? Nope. Amen? Nope. Tari? Nope.

    He'd be looking at mostly garbage time 10 minutes a game if he was here...and not every game.

    That's just the reality of Ime.
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    My guy, no one is going to forget even if you want them to. I'm glad that your pivoted to a different player to be ridiculous about, but we're going to remember.
     
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    Different skills different position. Right now Kon is the better overall player and more talented no question. I think longrun he will be.
     
  5. Stephen_A

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    what number 1 option in the league has issues getting into the paint? When has Sheppard controlled a game?
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    uhhh >8 times off the top of my head we won solely because of him, a couple more where we almost did but jabari/alpi had historically bad games and gave it away (GS, 1st heat game 2026 come to mind)

    Pretty obvious answer
     
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    You're literally the person following me around quoting me with insults, what the **** do you expect dumbass? I never quote you, I think you're a ****ing moron, I have no desire to interact with you at all, but if you want to quote me being a d******d I'll give you the same energy back tenfold. Funny how that goes right? Stick to sucking **** you absolute waste of matter.
     
  8. Stephen_A

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    no it’s not an obvious answer dude. The word choice used is misleading since no one player controls a game. But In the context of what DD was saying he was talking about a number 1 option and that Sheppard has this potential. He said Sheppard controls the game as a number 1 option does.

    • Sheppard has never been the number 1 option. Sheppard has been a role player mostly from the bench. The team doesn’t go to him to win one on one matchups or score as a first option. He gets kick outs, comes off flares, or takes it when he has a lane but he doesn’t usually beat his man one on one off the dribble.

    • As a number 1 option, “Control” means you are depended upon to heavily influence and shape the game all 4 quarters. Simply shooting a few threes in 8 games to help a team win certainly doesn’t qualify as controlling a game. Fred Vanvleet helped this team multiple times last year. He made tons of game winning shots or multiple great games. As a pg he helped control tempo and directed the team to get in their sets but he didn’t necessarily “control” the game.
    • Luka controls the game since he is a bonifide number one creating and scoring for his team with the ball in his hands since he wins 1-1 matchups and draws a lot of attention on the perimeter and paint. SGA controls the game. Durant controls the game. And they all do this almost every game. The team doesn’t rely on Sheppard for any of this.
    Let’s be honest with our assessments and not let our preference or bias for the player cloud our objective assessment.
     
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    I love Reed, but Kon is a special ball player. Just does everything right on the court.

    Flagg has generational talent. Kon could end up being the more consistent player.
     
  10. Dobbizzle

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    Tbh with the shooting Kon may have an argument for generational too. Those percentages are no joke at all.
     
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    A couple of things, I pretty non-ambiguously have said going back months I would rather have Kon. I know who Sheppard is

    you keep insisting that Udoka cheating on his wife with a team members wife and then harassing her repeatedly at her house when she called it quits was “everyone makes mistakes” and not a big deal—one of us is being objective and it’s not you

    you have a couple of definitions mixed up. A superstar has the ability and often does take over a game and change it himself. An all star provides consistent production and will occasionally take over games. The latter are your 20ppg types like Lowry was in his AS season

    Reed is neither and may never be, he is a however a solid starter that is far too inconsistent to be in that conversation. It doesn’t get any more objective than that.

    there is a gray zone of players that sometimes make that leap that he is in, will occasionally take over games but aren’t reliable for consistent production. You are welcomed to watch the GS, Orlando, suns, spurs or 15ish other games where Sheppard brought the team back himself. He absolutely did take over which was your assertion. If you look on here or talking head post game analysis you’ll find similar conclusions.
     
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    DaDakota Arrest all Pedophiles

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    Reed is going to be the number 1 option, he has superstar potential - he is on his way.......IMHO.

    DD
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Arrest all Pedophiles

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    TUVE shows Bball IQ.

    DD
     
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    Wenbenyama.

    Never really see the point of talking about hypotheticals.
     
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    One of the things that I think has been overlooked regarding Reed's positive impact on the team is his seemingly, maybe a coincidence, feel for when to hit a shot or a series of shots to turn the momentum around in several games already. I have noted that when the games are close, Reed would hit a shot, and the energy of the whole team just heightens. I have noticed that Jabari's shots start falling from everywhere once Reed hits his momentum changing shots.
     
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    Why’d you choose to compare those two random players?
     
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    I didn’t get mixed up, DD said Sheppard is a number one option. I responded and made my points. Sheppard simply isn’t a “number one option” who “controls” games and that’s objective. Number one option players are dominant players and Sheppard is not a dominant player no matter how you want to look at it.

    Udoka has nothing to do with this discussion so please stick to the topic. And no you are minimizing what I said. In the grand scheme of things no it doesn’t affect his talent and abilities and what has or can accomplish as we all
    Make mistakes in our lives including you.

    I did not use the word control. DD came up
    With the word. He paired it with number one option. To make things easier for both of us let’s ask DD what exactly “controls the game” mean to him.
     
  18. Dobbizzle

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    Actually seems like a good pair to compare. Reed came out of college and was tipped as a generational sharpshooter. Kon came out of college and actually IS a generational sharpshooter. Trying to reduce it to race says more about you than the thread.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Because they are white.

    DD
     
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    Two players Ime wouldn't want to play because he only focuses on defense.
     
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