[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

There’s a good chance they were, given that the nuclear deal they negotiated was discarded during the first Trump term and Israel had been openly threatening “preemptive” military attacks for decades.

But having a hunch isn’t sufficient justification to go to war. Iran now has all the more reason to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

That should be the democrats campaign add. Just show trumps clip nation wide

 

Gabbard was testifying on whether Iran was actively pursing nuclear weapons since the attacks last year. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have aspirations to obtain them over time. That is, create the conditions necessary so that they can quickly build nuclear weapons when the time is right. That would be rational national security strategy, given the threats they face from their neighbors and Israel and the US.

 

So it’s your opinion that public proclamations by Iranian leaders should be assumed to be totally truthful and sincere?

I think they had every reason to publicly claim they aren’t pursuing a nuclear weapon, and every reason to try to obtain one anyway.

 

Not much to say to this, other than click on the photo if you need a link.

From "no new wars", to "nothing but all war all the time" in about a year, give or take.

 

If only we still had people on the ground to inspect and verify.

The JCPOA was built on exactly that: don't trust, verify. And it was working. The Trump admin itself certified twice in 2017 that Iran was complying.

Then the same guy who killed our eyes and ears on the ground created the conditions for your question, failed to replace those eyes and ears with anything, and instead chose war without ever presenting US intelligence showing Iran was actually on the cusp of a weapon.

Whatever you think about Iran's nuclear ambitions, that decision wasn't driven by evidence they were about to cross the line. It was a policy choice. Maybe based on a hunch, maybe on Israeli lobbying, maybe on a desire for regime change, a poll number boost, distraction of domestic issues, or just someone playing geopolitics like a video game. But not on hard evidence of an imminent nuclear threat. It's an illegal war, and a war of choice.

 

GREAT FIRST!!!! AMERICA AGAIN!!!!!

 

So you're saying it's not about polls? Look, regime change might be the Israeli selling point that got Trump to act. Or his reasons might be something else entirely. Maybe he's just a guy who got manipulated.

But here's the one thing that I don't think is really in dispute: he has no principles of any kind beyond whatever he believes is good for him at any given moment.

Which is exactly why you've seen the justifications for this war shift since day one. A man acting on principle doesn't need to keep changing his story. A man acting on self-interest does.

 

This would be the least surprising story to come out of this war.

https://newrepublic.com/post/208551...social&utm_source=Bluesky&utm_campaign=SF_TNR

 

Is it possible to frame a post? Asking for a friend.

 

It's like Bibi justifying genocide in Gaza, the start of ethnic cleansing in Lebanon, and bombing hospitals, churches, schools, homes, and infrastructure, and killing thousands of innocent women and children across Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. This is the mindset. One minute video....



Champagne toasts and noose pins.

 

Just the worst ****ing people. We have a President who says out loud he doesn’t like being surrounded by smart and successful people. So this is what you get. Just complete incompetence and with the current secretary of defense (not war, **** you), a zealot who thinks he’s on a mission to bring Jesus back. Nothing of him looks like the Jesus I love and serve. Kills me. Ugh.

 

Hey everyone, what side this azzhole Baghdad Bob aks astro123 is on? It’s pretty clear the b*stard is on the side of Iran our enemies. I hope the ban hammer would drop on this anti American fuccker.

 

For more than a Tweet:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-ousts-army-chief-of-staff-gen-randy-george/

My guess (?) is that General George was pushing back on rushing to ground invasion or the troop level required or the troop preparedness or probable casualty levels.

Seems like the perfect general to fire based on his resume:

• West Point graduate
• deployed to both Afghanistan and Iraq, multiple tours
• Bronze Star, Purple Heart, Legion of Merit, et alia

We just seem totally determined to get dumber, less competent, and more obsessed with self-harm.