[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Oil futures jumped during Trump's speech. FTW.

 

Why pay federal taxes at this point?

 

Iran has national health care.

 

I turned on the speech during halftime of the Rockets game. I heard Trump say we have NO inflation and that regime change WAS NOT an objective of the war with Iran.

Even his brain dead followers know that ain’t true.

 

The markets didn't think much of the speech.

 

It has to be a mind f•ck for other countries -- the US simultaneously fighting all these wars and launching moon mission like it's nothing. The money being spent is absolutely mind boggling.

 

Why do I have a disturbing feeling that our military is about to join Netaynhu in committing horrific war crimes in the next two or three weeks? I think Hegseth is chomping at the bit to unleash a bit of evil.

 

Josh Marshall:

"I think any press person who watched President Trump’s Iran cheer-up session speech on truth serum would have to concede that this was a speech he shouldn’t have given. He meandered. He looked bad and worn out. He had the requisite moments when his degenerate inner monologue creeps into the open: he said that free passage through the Strait of Hormuz is something for importer countries in Asia to deal with, that they should “grab and cherish” the Strait, as though it were some underage beauty pageant contestant Trump was hungering to assault. What is important is that in political and public opinion terms, there was nothing new or newsworthy in this speech. They didn’t even manage to accomplish this in the narrow and cynical sense of saying anything new that could be a fresh point of public discussion."

"Market watchers will note that the White House is now solidifying around the idea that free passage through the Strait of Hormuz is something importer countries will have to deal with, that it’s not America’s problem. That means that the economic fallout of the war will continue unabated. This is simply rebranding a massive strategic defeat as some kind of America First swagger. Of course, oil markets are global. It doesn’t really matter if the US makes as much oil as it consumes. That’s not how prices work."

 

Trump's position is basically that he is willing to concede $6/gal gas for Americans, so long as he thinks he can shift the blame onto someone else.

The only person on the planet Trump cares about is himself.

 

The article did miss the "no inflation" lie ... perhaps the greatest lie ever told.


On Trump's rambling war speech —and four bizarre moments that left viewers confused

1. Trump castigates “mass murdering” Iran regime after blowing up an occupied girls’ school
2. Trump insists U.S. was ‘dead and crippled’ under Biden as his nation hurtles toward its worst economy in years
3. Trump poetically advises other nations to ‘cherish’ the Strait of Hormuz and clean his mess
4. Trump claims the world ‘can't believe the power, strength and brilliance’ of his military as Americans grumble

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Will someone please get this little girl her bubble wand so she stops threatening genocide??

 

That's very disturbing the way he's all smiles and giggles talking about committing horrific war crimes if Iran doesn't submit to Trump's demands. The war mongers Graham and Hegseth getting off on this stuff sickens me.

It's just as disturbing how our President has lied to the American people from the start, and hasn't stopped lying or changing his story the entire time.

Open your eyes Americans!!! This war is not for you!

All these billions being spent from your tax dollars are not making your life better, our healthcare better, or our economy better. Last but not least, how do you support sending American troops in to risk their lives for a war that never should have been started by us to begin with?

Can you sleep at night with a peaceful heart knowing there is a possibility of our troops being ordered to commit more war crimes? Can you sleep at night feeling comfort that Trump will not put boots on the ground or put our troops in even further danger? Will you feel like it's a big win if we blow Iran to the stone ages and all their people suffer? I sure don't.

 

Iran was trying to use the North Korean model to get a nuke: create sufficient conventional deterrence so you won’t be challenged in acquiring one (it’s called the Seoul Hostage Problem).

This has been explained over and over since day one.

Everyone claiming shifting goalposts or no imminent threat has been lying.

The reason North Korea was allowed to get nukes is because Seoul (and its 10 million inhabitants) is within artillery and rocket range of North Korea.

During the 1994 nuclear crisis, the Clinton administration seriously considered airstrikes on North Korea’s Yongbyon reactor but backed off precisely because of the artillery threat to Seoul.

Iran was trying to accomplish the same by stockpiling missiles and drones which would have had the same deterrent effect. The proof is what Iran has been doing in the past month: attacking all its neighbors in order to pressure the US to stop attacking it

Beyond this, they were building medium-range ballistic missiles that could reach Paris and London, meaning all of Europe could be held hostage as they built a nuclear bomb.

The reason Iran has not built a nuclear weapon until now is not because it couldn’t, but because it knew it would be attacked and denied this capability.

So by allowing them to continue developing this conventional deterrence, you would be allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

And unlike North Korea, Iran is led by an eschatological death cult

Reagan saw nuclear mutually assured destruction (MAD) as both morally bankrupt (because of the innocent-body-count problem) and dangerously fragile because it assumed flawless rationality between adversaries…this means it only takes one irrational actor to destroy the world.

Working backwards from the conclusion that Iran’s Islamist regime must never have a nuclear weapon, it was necessary for the US to attack Iran to deny it the conventional capacity to hold the entire eastern hemisphere hostage.

Every European leader knows this and behind the scenes praises the US for this action. But they are cowards, held hostage by their own internal Muslim populations, and so adopt these ridiculous public positions.

This was never about Israel. And if your argument is that Iran should be allowed to get a nuclear weapon then you are a fool and a traitor to western civilization…you’re a useful idiot