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I absolutely HATE sports betting it is a plague and should be banned

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SamFisher, Apr 11, 2024.

  1. StephenAdams

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    I think a big part of it is that the leaders for a lot of these long lasting corporations no longer have any ties to the businesses they operate. They are already the 5th or 6th ceo and presidents in the last however many years. Why would they care to build upon the reputation and legacy of someone else's work when they can just maximize profits and dip?

    You see the same thing with sports owners. We have owners who own teams in cities they would never even live in and we really expect them to actually care about the product?
     
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    Virtual Gambling should be outlawed.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    The sullying of athletes by untethered capital will continue until morale improves
     
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    OK, NCAA, get on it:

    In a letter to NCAA president Charlie Baker, the Big Ten Conference Student-Athlete Issues Commission (SAIC) called for a continued push to limit or outright ban prop bets based on individual college athletes to reduce harassment and protect mental health and game integrity.

    The SAIC wrote Tuesday that student-athletes are receiving angry messages, threats or criticism from bettors when wagers lose, including from fans who sit behind the bench "yelling horrible things" and on social media.

    A 2025 study of more than 20,000 student-athletes found that 51% of Division I men's basketball players had received social media abuse based on their performance, much of it coming from bettors.

    "Prop bets are a direct avenue to the overwhelming number of death threats that student-athletes receive if they 'ruin a parlay' or cause a fan to lose a bet," the letter to Baker states.

    Baker has pushed state gambling regulators to ban sportsbooks from offering prop bets on individual college players. More than a dozen states prohibit sportsbooks from offering college props, but still jurisdictions allow them, including on alternate betting platforms such as daily fantasy and sweepstakes sites.

    Missouri gaming regulators recently denied a request from the NCAA to eliminate college player props.

    The SAIC also expressed concern about prop bets damaging the integrity of the game by creating doubt about a player's performance.

    "These athletes are often young and more susceptible to influence, including financial incentives that may encourage them to perform in a certain way or affect specific outcomes," the letter says.

    Last year, three Division I basketball players were ruled ineligible for participating in a gambling scheme centered on prop bets on individual statistics.

    "While we understand that sports betting is becoming increasingly more common across the country and allows for states to generate increased tax revenue, prop betting represents unique risks at the college level," the SAIC wrote. "We believe protecting student-athletes must be a priority. Limiting or eliminating prop betting on college athletics would be a meaningful step toward reducing harassment, protecting mental well-being, and preserving the integrity of college competition."

    https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/s...lie-baker-ncaa-ban-prop-bets-college-athletes
     
  6. Nook

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    Who uses online betting?

    That is for suckers.

    Use a bookie - they are doing better than they have in nearly 50 years right now.

    Guys are getting hooked on sports betting and figuring out that the taxes are insane.

    Most big cities have a guy.

    Get paid the next day - cash.
     
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    The gamblers who do microbets and parlays. You can't bet on the outcome of every single pitch or free throw with a bookie. Also unlikely they offer advanced parlays. Stuff like having a parlay where you bet a player scores over a certain amount of points in one NBA game, which team wins in another NBA game, then the starting pitcher gets over a certain amount of strikes for a baseball game, and the total points scored in a soccer match is over or under a certain number.
     
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    Excerpt from "Why I got out of the gambling business"

    I've heard all the arguments both for and against legalizing online gambling. What I think is missing from that conversation is the fact that it's not really just gambling online that has been legalized. What has been legalized is extraction, and the new methods of extraction that are possible using the internet and mobile devices. These companies have identified a group of people with a monetizable compulsion, and we have legalized the tools needed to industrially harvest money from them.

    Our state governments are happy to comply as long as they get their cut, and this "windfall" comes without having to tax the billionaires and their conglomerates who already own most of the country. It all functions like a privatized tax, where people pay based on how bad they have the "itch," with most of the revenue going to corporations. With mobile gambling, these companies have not only been allowed to insert themselves into our sports leagues and news organizations, but also into our homes. Formerly, gambling executives had to build great temples to which the willing made pilgrimage, and from which they were able to leave after taking their beatings. Now these CEOs are in our living rooms, bedrooms, kitchens, bathrooms, and cars. They sit on your hip wherever you go, with a hand waiting over your wallets and purses. And we have let them do it.

    In a given year, around 15 out of 100,000 deaths in the United States come from suicide. Among gambling addicts, this rate is multiplied 15 times, according to studies. DraftKings reports 4.8 million users, and FanDuel reports 4.5 million. Among those millions of customers are a significant number of customers whose lives are being steadily worsened by gambling, and among those customers are people at high risk of suicide who might never have been put in such a precarious position had they never had a portable casino put in their pocket. Perhaps our gambling tech overlords have factored this in as the cost of doing business, or perhaps they don't think about it all. I don't know if any former customers of the company I worked for killed themselves, but I do remember days when gamblers frustrated over a disputed payout or a bad beat would threaten suicide, necessitating a quick locking of their account followed by a call to their local police department for a wellness check. All the cases I followed up on ended with police reporting an embarrassed and annoyed but physically unharmed person. Knowing it was inevitable that one of these cases would eventually have a much darker ending became too much, and so I quit.

    Though the damage I did while at the company cannot be undone, I can sleep a little easier now knowing I am no longer a part of that rotten business. I encourage everyone else working at these companies to do the same as I did, and quit. The job can be walked away from; the casino, on the other hand, follows you everywhere.​
     
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    “We all on Kalshi now” - Yannis & Silver

     
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    Anyone interested in the massive cultural costs of online sports gambling should listen to season 5 of Michael Lewis’ (Moneyball author) podcast “Against the Rules”. Sports gambling is fraudulent and one of the biggest public health crisis of our time.
     
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    "Most Polymarket Users Lose Money, While Top 1% Claim 76.5% of Gains, Study Finds"

    "A lot of users aren't that good at predicting the future. They're losing money at roughly the same rate as online gamblers betting on sports and other real-life events at traditional sportsbooks, according to the U.K. gambling regulator's analysis of 2024 data. On Polymarket, the odds of making a profit are slightly higher on weather and tech markets — and a little lower on sports...

    On Polymarket, just 1,200 people took more than half the profits — $591 million, or more than $100,000 each. ["The top 1% of users capture 76.5% of all trading gains," the researchers write.] When you dabble in prediction markets, you're competing against these sophisticated players who consistently win. Most of those 1,200 big winners didn't place just a few smart bets. They appear to be pros making thousands of trades, mostly in the past year and a half, that were probably automated. One user made $3 million since January on more than a million trades about the Oscars, according to TRM Labs..."
     

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