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Polymarket: When Gamblers Threaten Journalists. Imagine a State Actor With Billions on the Line

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Mar 16, 2026.

  1. Amiga

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    Crazy story.

    A Times of Israel military correspondent, Emanuel Fabian, reported on an Iranian ballistic missile strike near Beit Shemesh on March 10, 2026. What followed was a disturbing escalation of harassment and death threats from Polymarket gamblers.

    A man named "Haim" sent a series of threatening WhatsApp messages, warning Fabian he had minutes to comply or face severe consequences, including: "after you make us lose $900,000 we will invest no less than that to finish you." Someone posing as a lawyer also called him.

    Fabian refused to alter his reporting. Less ethical or concerned journalists might cave under similar pressure.

    Now, imagine what a state actor could do with virtually unlimited resources, intelligence agencies, and billions of dollars on the line. The manipulation of journalists, fabrication of evidence, and intimidation of sources would not just be a crime. It would become an instrument of foreign policy. Or worse, a state could skip the manipulation entirely and simply take actions to move the market in their favor. Even starting a war.

    Gamblers trying to win a bet on Polymarket are vowing to kill me if I don't rewrite an Iran missile story | The Times of Israel
     
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  2. nolimitnp

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    We live in such a sick society.
     
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    Imagine if I just decided to ram my car head on to a car coming the opposite direction on a 60 mph one lane each way road.

    Imagine thousands decided to do it tomorrow.

    This is the point, trust the system. Because one person did this you don't have to worry a billionaires threatening journalist's lives

    Interesting thread, but for the most part we know the billionaire bad actors and it's just not something I project to a big problem

    Lastly the guy felt safe enough to report this and it's well reasoned that he should have

    The car example came from a random sports talk show discussion years ago. Don't know why I immediately thought about other trusting the system
     
  4. Amiga

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    I get what you’re saying about trusting the system, but I think this example actually shows why that’s risky.

    Your car analogy works because driving is heavily regulated. Licenses, insurance, enforcement, liability, those are what keep bad behavior rare. Without that structure, you wouldn’t just “trust drivers” to do the right thing.

    What’s interesting is prediction markets are already following the same path. The U.S. side is now regulated under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, with ID checks and reporting. That actually supports the point, the incentives got exploited first, and then regulation followed, just like with the US SEC.

    But that doesn’t solve the core issue. There’s still a global, more opaque version where actors can operate with far fewer constraints. That’s where the real risk sits.

    And on the journalist, him going public likely made him safer, it doesn’t mean the system prevented the threat. It happened, and he had to react.

    The bigger difference here is the downside. Fraud and insider trading mostly hurt people financially. This kind of setup can incentivize influencing real-world events, even conflicts. That’s a much higher ceiling for harm.

    So I agree it’s not everywhere, but if the system rewards people for trying to influence outcomes, then the risk is built in. It doesn’t need to be everywhere all at once.
     
  5. Amiga

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    There are actually a number of bills targeting prediction markets to address abuse and fraud, including insider trading, manipulation, and underage gambling. Some go further and target bets tied to sensitive geopolitical events, like war, assassination, and death, due to concerns about national security and incentives to influence real-world outcomes. Others aim to prohibit trading by elected officials, including POTUS, because of access to nonpublic information...

    Congress Introduces Wave of Bills Targeting Prediction Markets - DeFi Rate
     
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  6. strosb4bros

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    Hmm... I wonder how this all started?

    Oh that's right, normalizing and encouraging sports gambling. Can't go anywhere without having it thrown in your face. Half the SB ads were some kind of gambling service. It's plastered all over arena's. The drawbacks don't matter when you can make billions.

    We've now taken that outside of sports with "prediction markets", which is gambling on every conceivable human scenario. There are even more drawbacks to this as life itself isn't regulated and people will use every avenue to tip the odds in their favor. NBA player Antempoku, a very rich person who in no way needs the money, signed a contract with them while still having 5+ years of an NBA career left, because we have to pretend they aren't aimed at compulsive gamblers and are here to provide "information". CNN and news services have contracts with them legitimizing the idea they are now truth.

    But these things never follow ideal scenario's, and the 99% who use them as a source for gambling will lose out big time. When they spiral, they will take real world matters into their own hands and we'll see desperate scenario's play out. Much like the FBI has informants, gamblers will have moles inside every source that gives them an edge.
     
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  7. Amiga

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    Gambling is a deeply damaging addiction that doesn't get nearly enough honest conversation. I've witnessed everyday family folks lose everything to it, and even the "mild" cases are heartbreaking: slowly bleeding money every month, surviving but never really living, while their families suffer around them. Divorce, dysfunction, broken trust. It rivals drug addiction in real-world destruction. Prediction markets are just the latest rebranding of the same trap, dressed up as information and analysis. We're moving in the wrong direction, expanding access and normalizing it everywhere instead of reducing the harm.
     
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    A man named "Haim" went from losing $900,000 on a bad bet, to be being a sore loser and finally to threatening to kill someone (which is a serious crime in most places). There are worse outcomes than sending a millionaire (would a billionaire even blink an eye on a $900,000 loss?) to prison. It would at least send a message to other millionaires ... "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime" ... or alternatively "You can't pull this **** unless you are a billionaire. Know your lane."
     
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    Rep. Seth Moulton rips Polymarket for taking bets on fate of US pilot shot down over Iran

    Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) on Friday ripped the prediction platform Polymarket for accepting bets in a since-deleted page on the date a U.S. pilot shot down over Iran will be found.

    “They could be your neighbor, a friend, a family member,” Moulton wrote in a post Friday on the social platform X. “And people are betting on whether or not they’ll be saved.”

    “This is DISGUSTING,” he wrote.

    Polymarket has since taken down the poll for not meeting its standards.

    “We took this market down immediately as it does not meet our integrity standards,” the company in a statement on X. “It should not have been posted, and we are investigating how this slipped through our internal safeguards.”

    Moulton and other bipartisan lawmakers have been critical of prediction markets like Polymarket. He recently banned his staff from trading on such platforms.

    “Prediction markets have become a playground for corrupt insiders who are able to place bets on things like election outcomes, wars, and even the deaths of public figures,” Moulton said in a statement on his decision. “This is creating a perverse incentive structure that poses a genuine threat to American society today.”
     
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  10. DonnyMost

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    Lol @ polymarket having standards.

    Yes, the powerful and connected are using polymarket to profit, often times off of human misery.

    This has been obvious as all hell for a while now.

    Legal online gambling was a mistake.
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Who's investigating?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/18/iran-war-bets-ethics-concerns

    Perfect timing
    On the night of 27 February, the day before the US and Israel would carry out strikes on Iran, an unusual influx of about 150 accounts on Polymarket placed bets that the US would strike Iran the next day. A New York Times analysis found the bets totaled $855,000, with 16 accounts pocketing more than $100,000 each.

    Soon after, a single anonymous Polymarket user, under an account named “Magamyman”, made over $553,000 after betting that Khamenei would be “removed” from power just moments before he was killed by an Israeli airstrike, according to a complaint filed to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), the federal agency that regulates futures markets, by Public Citizen, a consumer advocacy group. The complaint also cites a crypto-analytics firm that identified six “suspected insiders” who made a total of $1.2m on Polymarket after Khamenei was killed.


    The well-timed surge of wagers were seen again on 7 April, when at least 50 Polymarket accounts placed bets that the US and Iran would reach a ceasefire hours before Trump would announce it on a Truth Social post. Earlier, the president had said “a whole civilization will die tonight” if Iran did not open the strait of Hormuz.

    But traders weren’t just active on Polymarket: there were similar surges of oil futures trading activity just hours before Trump announced updates to the conflict that would lower oil prices.

    On 23 March, traders placed $580m in bets on the oil futures market just 15 minutes before Trump said on social media that the US was having “productive” talks with Iran, according to the Financial Times. The traders made a windfall after Trump’s comments triggered a sell-off in the oil markets that made oil prices plummet.

    The same thing happened again on 7 April, this time when traders spent $950m on oil futures, betting that the price of oil would fall just hours before the ceasefire with Iran was announced.
     
  12. K9Texan

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    Thanks for sharing. That's insane. That type of gambling should be outlawed.
     
  13. strosb4bros

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    They did it again. Surely someone in congress has the balls to call it out. Shouldn't be hard to trace a $760 million order...

    Traders place $760 million bet on falling oil ahead of Hormuz announcement | Reuters

    LONDON - Investors placed a bet worth about US$760 million (S$965 million) on a falling oil price around 20 minutes before Iran’s foreign minister announced on April 17 that the Strait of Hormuz was open, another sizeable wager on the world’s most traded commodity ahead of major announcements in the course of the Middle East war.

    Large, well-timed trades in recent months have drawn concern from US lawmakers and legal experts that decisions around war and diplomacy can give some traders an edge in volatile and opaque derivatives markets.

    • Between 1224 GMT and 1225 GMT investors sold a combined 7,990 lots of Brent crude futures, according to LSEG data.
    • Based on the price at the time, these trades were worth about $760 million.
    • At 1245 GMT, Iran’s foreign minister posted on X that passage for all commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz was declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire, in line with the ceasefire in Lebanon.
    • The announcement pushed crude down as much as 11 per cent on the day in the minutes that followed.
     
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    True. Some become addicted to gambling and lose everything. It should be outlawed...along with state lotteries.
     
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    Members of Congress have gotten filthy rich from insider information that they use all the time in the stock market. Of course, it's not "gambling" for them because they know the results in advance and so every "bet" they make in the stock market is a "lock" to win. Nancy Pelosi is notorious for this.
     
  16. Amiga

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    The CFTC and SEC have the power to investigate and regulate. Congress is secondary, investigating the investigators, ensuring they are doing their job, or conducting their own investigations as well.

    The issue is that both the CFTC and SEC have been weakened under the Trump admin and are run by Trump loyalists. The SEC's top enforcement official resigned after clashing with agency leadership (for refusing to pursuit fraud cases involving Trump allies), and the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section (created after Watergate to prosecute corrupt officials) has been reduced from 36 lawyers to just two.

    So, I'm not expecting the CFTC, SEC, or DOJ to do anything here. In fact, I would not be surprised at all if folks around Trump are the inside traders, and these agencies wouldn't investigate themselves. The same goes for today's Congress, they wouldn't dare investigate this admin.

    There is essentially no check on public corruption, and it is clear as daylight that corruption is ongoing.


    The Justice Department Had 36 Lawyers Fighting Corruption Full-Time. Under Trump, It’s Down to Two. - NOTUS — News of the United States

    New Trick, Same Crime? Insider Trading on Prediction Markets - King & Spalding

    Exclusive: US SEC's ex-enforcement chief clashed with bosses over Trump cases before leaving, sources say | Reuters
     

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