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  1. daywalker02

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    In this particular case, yes, the leader is also 6'2 ......that is like once in a lifetime guy.

    The future is still rebuilding thru the draft.....you just need to get the OGs, KATs, Bridges through trades.....transactions.
     
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    FUUUKKK THE SPURMS

    To hell with their closet fans

    you know who you are
     
  3. sirjesse

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    That Fox contract is also going to be a serious problem for them after next season when Wemby is getting paid. It's going to be most of their cap space on two players.
     
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    They'll likely trade him make harper their point. i'm not sold on harper being a great point. he's always more of a scorer to me. we will see
     
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    Imo... I'm never in favor of throwing away season after season just for the possibility that ur gonna draft some kid thats gonna lead u to the promised land... but if u wanna tank for assets, it makes sense... u get something for nothing (except being bad)... but I'd then trade those lottery tickets for a proven commodity!
    Realistically look at what the actual success rate is among draft picks... Everybody is enamored with getting the next Lebron - but u have a far greater likelihood of getting Darko'ed or Kwame'd...
    thats not to say that I would abandon the draft all together... u can still throw the dice and hopefully get lucky for a far lesser investment late in the draft... but my main focus would be acquiring someone like a Brunson, or a Shai or when DM got Harden...

    10 years out is long enough to determine if a player was a boon or a bust... lets look at your potential return on spending a 2016 frp...

    Ben Simmons – Philadelphia 76ers, LSU
    Brandon Ingram – Los Angeles Lakers, Duke
    Jaylen Brown – Boston Celtics, California
    Dragan Bender – Phoenix Suns, Croatia
    Kris Dunn – Minnesota Timberwolves, Providence
    Buddy Hield – New Orleans Pelicans, Oklahoma
    Jamal Murray – Denver Nuggets, Kentucky
    Marquese Chriss – Sacramento Kings (traded to Suns), Washington
    Jakob Poeltl – Toronto Raptors, Utah
    Thon Maker – Milwaukee Bucks, Australia
    Domantas Sabonis – Orlando Magic (traded to Thunder), Gonzaga
    Taurean Prince – Utah Jazz (traded to Atlanta), Baylor
    Georgios Papagiannis – Phoenix Suns (traded to Kings), Greece
    Denzel Valentine – Chicago Bulls, Michigan State
    Juancho Hernangómez – Denver Nuggets, Spain
    Guerschon Yabusele – Boston Celtics, France
    Wade Baldwin IV – Memphis Grizzlies, Vanderbilt
    Henry Ellenson – Detroit Pistons, Marquette
    Malik Beasley – Denver Nuggets, Florida State
    Caris LeVert – Indiana Pacers (traded to Brooklyn), Michigan
    DeAndre' Bembry – Atlanta Hawks, Saint Joseph's
    Malachi Richardson – Charlotte Hornets (traded to Sacramento), Syracuse
    Ante Žižić – Boston Celtics, Croatia
    Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot – Philadelphia 76ers (from Miami via Cleveland), France
    Brice Johnson – Los Angeles Clippers, North Carolina
    Furkan Korkmaz – Philadelphia 76ers (from Oklahoma City via Cleveland), Turkey
    Pascal Siakam – Toronto Raptors, New Mexico State
    Skal Labissière – Phoenix Suns (traded to Kings), Kentucky
    Dejounte Murray – San Antonio Spurs, Washington
    Damian Jones – Golden State Warriors, Vanderbilt

    how many of these guy were more valuable than their draft pick value... and how many were a loss compared to their draft pick value? Imagine throwing away a whole season to score Dragan Bender or Marquese Chriss... lol
     
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    So how is that the Rockets find a Brunson, they have a homeless version in Fred ......
    Opinion has nothing to do with it, it is like finding the next Iverson ....

    I would even argue that in these 10 years finding a unicorn is easier than finding a 6'1 Superstar, but you can certainly roll the dice.

    Unicorns - Porzingis, Chet, Wemby, (Joker), KAT, arguably Evan Mobley.


     
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    oh i have very little confidence in Stone trading for or signing a future star... although Dillon Brooks was a good signing... but I cant say I have any level of confidence in his ability to pick a winner even if given a high draft pick - and given the low success rate...
     
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  11. OremLK

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    I feel like it's going to be hard to move Fox's contract at this point. Maybe if he bounces back next season. They might have to give up draft picks to get somebody to take him, or take on a different bad contract. I kind of wanted Fox when I saw the price they paid to get him--until I saw the extension he got. Bullet dodged.
     
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    Fox did his thing, they wanted him to mentor their kiddie guards, he did just that.

    I don't think his tenure is as bad as the Finals have been, he is just out of his depth ....he has never been this far.....
     
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    and since u wanna mention Freddy like he's some punchline...
    He went undrafted and was gotten by Toronto for what - a min contract in 2016... again... look at that list above and tell me how many frps from that year have had a better career?
     
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    I think it's hilarious that Wemby is living rent free in older Rockets fan's heads for something like that. The guy grew up a Spurs fan and knew that Houston getting 4th made the Spurs odds of getting first pick higher. The fact people are trying to make it seem like a slight to the city of Houston is so childish.
     
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    Well, Jalen Brunson was not some Top 3 pick as well.

    He was a 2nd rounder, admittedly a high 2nd rounder at 33rd.

    Dwarfish guards are just not the hottest commodities early on, they have to prove it, takes long ways.

    I don't think FVV is some punchline but his weaknesses are really worse in the Playoffs if he is your Number 2 .....

     
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    For me I already hate the Spurs, they're our divisional rival and we've had many battles with them over the years, and it feels like for some godforsaken reason they're the NBA's darling smaller market franchise and the Rockets are the redheaded stepchild. Wemby being a Spurs fan is a knock against him for those reasons, not because he snubbed the Rockets specifically (I wouldn't want to play for this coach or this owner either). I wouldn't care if he grew up a fan of the Pistons and was hoping to go there.

    TL;DR it's more about the Spurs as a team than about Wemby being happy to go there.
     
  17. Stephen_A

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    I don’t get why Rockets fans are infatuated with players that aren’t great players or have been inconsistent or lacking throughout their whole careers while undervaluing our own. Fred has been a consistent pro and very good pg most of his career yet receives so much hate after a down year in 24-25.
     
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    The Spurs are big in France. There’s NBA licensing and tv deals with france. The Euro market is growing and interest in the sport booming. Money money money. It’s time to eat. Silver and all the governors know this. That’s why Wemby went first.
     
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    he’s not a number 2 scorer. I don’t get it
     
  20. OremLK

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    Yeah, I get it, but it doesn't make it less annoying. It's kind of emblematic of where rich people are at generally in our society right now. Everything is about the bottom line, it doesn't matter how much you cheat to get there.
     

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