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Texas Teen Stabbed to Death over Football Seat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by strosb4bros, Apr 3, 2025.

  1. El_Conquistador

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    Metcalf was trying to deescalate by telling Anthony to move. Anthony obviously should have moved -- he was in the other team's bench area and asked to leave (15x). Why not move? Was it because he was wanted to use the knife that he brought? Or racist towards whites? Or just wanted to physically intimidate others? Athony's ego and poor impulse control ultimately ended the young life of Austin Metcalf and ruined his own life. Very avoidable by not sitting in the other team's tent (big no-no in track that everyone there knows).

    "He put his hands on me" is something that people say when they are trying to hide just how little the other person did. What does it mean? A punch, a strong push? A light tap (what happened here)? It's a deception. And it doesn't justify stabbing. Furthermore, the testimony said that the stabbing occurred simultaneously to Metcalf motioning (not yet touching) Anthony.

    It's clear that after 15 requests to leave and refusals, that Anthony was looking to start trouble. He shouldn't have been in the opposing team's bench area (the tent) in the first place. Or armed with knife.

    The testimony at trial by 20+ people contradicts your points. And Anthony will likely end up at Coffield Unit sitting in a 115 degree cell for decades.
     
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  2. Salvy

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    In El Salvador all the murderers got sent to prison and the people of the country started to rehabilitate really really fast and well... Country is really safe now with a much improved economy and booming tourism... Should be worth a try I say....
     
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  3. DonnyMost

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    El Salvador was basically a failed state ruled by drug lords.

    Not exactly a good analog.
     
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    Not too far off, human civil right orgs cried this was inhumane and that it was not the answer.... Turns out violent individuals can't be violent on civilians from prison...

    Whats different here?
     
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    This is sadly true.

    Our prison system turns just about anyone who touches it into a lost cause.

    When I vote to send someone to prison, I expect I am sending them there for life, because odds are if they spend any significant amount of time behind bars their chances at living a productive life are basically over.
     
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    You think the US and El Salvador are comparable?

    What shite hole do you live in?
     
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    ^^^ some weapons grade boomer humor right there.

    And yall wonder why you get called racist so damn much?
     
  9. Salvy

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    Do you think people get stabbed differently in El Salvador? We are still talking about crime right?
     
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    If my country had a murder rate higher than the over of the average Rockets game I'd probably turn my police force into a military operation and court system into an inmate factory too.

    But we don't live in such a place. Part of having a wealthy advanced civilization is the luxury of a thorough and considered justice system.
     
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    Such a racist comment.
     
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    this is how much the yts in texas value latino males lives.



    dont you get it by now.. yts only use you latinos and your thirsty quest for a proximity to whiteness as just as a means to an end

    as soon as AI started getting big, they no longer needed your services. Your people are naive to how they are because most if not all of you just got to this country in lemans terms only YESTERDAY. You are not the actual foundation of this country. First thing trump in 2024 said when he was sworn in was that birthright citizenship was intended for the descendants of slaves.. not LATINOS. So you guys foolishly saying ICE was gonna deport AFRICAN AMERICANS, like the usa has not already tried that a century ago. If they tried to remove fbas from america the united nations would strike it down

    oh and caysen allison orginally ONLY got 2 years in prison, FOH BRINGIN AH KNIFE TUH SKOOL. and caysen actually had an illegal knife unlike karmelo. the only reason why the judge increased the sentence to 10 years was because the knife was illegal, so in other words if caysen allison had the same LEGAL knife karmelo used to stab austin metcalf then caysen would have only recieved 2 years in prison for killing Joe Ramirez

    AND CHECK this out, while on house arrest caysen allison got high and stabbed a family member.. and his total sentence was 10 years still, the stabbing of his family member while on house arrest charge was conveniently DROPPED

    So if you are counting, thats 2 stabbings, one where he repeatedly stabbed a student 7 times and posted on twitter the day before about wanting to put Joe Ramirez in the ICU.. is that not intent.. and of the course the stabbing of the family member charge that was DROPPED
     
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    Murder rate, civilization, wealth have nothing to do with it, if the justice system finds a violent offender guilty of MURDER you think rehabilation is on the table? Life in prison perhaps is exactly what we need so it doesn't go to a woke judge or jury lottery where a murderer has a chance to walk...
     
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    In his case all crackers salted or unsalted are good crackers....
     
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    Sounds like cancel culture to me!
     
  18. Tomstro

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    Actually it’s Austin Metcalf’s life that is over.
     
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    New York thugs are more diverse breh
     
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    Personally, I don't enjoy paying to incarcerate people that don't need to be. Unfortunately, it is difficult to strike a perfect balance. But if you weren't a criminal when you went to prison, you often become one in there. My time on probation as a juvenile showed me why the system is broken. We'd have group meetings every week. It was in those meetings that I learned to pick locks. It was a wonderful gang recruiting ground. Put delinquents together, having a peer group that validates the bad things you do. There were monsters in there, and they suck in so many that could have easily been saved.

    I don't know much about Karmelo. I know he killed someone when he didn't need to, and there needed to be harsh consequences. I also know 35 years might as well be life (I assume he'll actually be parole eligible before that, but IDK). Not only do we pay for him to be there, we'll likely be paying for him afterwards as it is hard to make on the outside even if you follow the straight and narrow. Maybe if given a second chance, he'd go on to live a great productive life. Maybe he'd go on to kill his girlfriend in an argument. Nothing is going to bring the victim back.

    One of the craziest things about to me is that he happened at a track meet, and I guess there wasn't any history between the two. Running sports usually are incredibly friendly events. Having been through it as an athlete and a parent, I can't imagine a situation like this happening. The coaches for our hated cross town rivals are literally cheering on our athletes and vice versa. Providing times to help them maintain pace. Helping encourage them to push through pain. Athletes visit rival tents all the time. We'd certainly never kick someone out into the rain. We'd be encouraging people under the tent to get out of the rain. I just as much can't fathom an athlete carrying a knife in his pocket (though I suppose my oldest son always seemed to).
     

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