[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

vets will still line up around the corner to vote for this filth like blind sheep

 

Doesn't matter, I'm disappointed that the POTUS didn't make waste of Iran 3 weeks ago. He needs to finish the job and finish it as quickly as possible. 47 yrs of this is crazy, this shoud've been done almost 5 decades ago. Starve them, destroy their oil and infrastructure and be done with this. Main thing is show them no mercy just as they've shown the rest of the world no mercy as they've sponsored terrorism throughout the world. Payback for Oct. 7th should've been quick and decisive and been shown the same amount of mercy that their proxies showed on Oct. 7th.

Some will say that makes us no better than them. I say I dont care violence and death are the only things they understand and it's past time to make them understand. Ultimately this will save lives around the world if the sponsor of state terrorism is eliminated from the face of the earth. Enough of trying to negotiate with crazy people.

 

They probably would have lost more than 13 people in non war time just by accidents on bases throughout the world. Now if you want to talk about Biden's dumb withdrawal from Afghanistan we can.

 

Now tell me how you feel about the Saudis and their role in 9/11.

 

Sounds like it mattered until the facts no longer supported your case.

"violence and death are the only things they understand" is exactly the language of extremists that kill, including killing babies.

Trump's decision to kill the JCPOA made Iran more dangerous. And so far, Trump's war has made Iran stronger and even more dangerous in the long term. And unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there is a way to undo that.

 

"Finish the job" means sending ground troops.

China will continue to provide weapons and food to Iran in exchange for energy.

Religious wars are stupid.

 

Another day, nothing resolved. We're going around in circles with these negotiations.

Mojtaba Khamenei has ordered that near-weapons-grade uranium must stay in Iran, rather than being transferred abroad as part of an agreement to end the war with the US and Israel, senior Iranian sources say.

Trump says that the United States does not want tolls on the Strait of Hormuz and will retrieve Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

“We will get it. We don’t need it, we don’t want it. We’ll probably destroy it after we get it, but we’re not going to let them have it,” Trump tells reporters at the White House.

Meanwhile.....

Marco Rubio said there are "some good signs" that a deal to end the Iran war could be in sight - but added that he doesn't "want to be overly optimistic".

 

Sending ground troops very likely wouldn't finish the job either. Vietnam, Korea, Afghan...

 

Nuke the whales.

 

Oct 7th gave us the moral authority.

Being close to getting a nuke was a call to action.

Deal with it., I'm glad we're doing what we're doing as long as Trump finishes the job.

 

I would've struck back hard against them too.

Instead Bush Jr. who I'm not a fan of used that to get rid of Sadam which was a bad mistake IMHO. We've let far too many Americans die at the hands of ME terrorism.

 

What part of "us" was attacked on October 7?

 

Oct 7th they killed Americans too.

 

For 35 years the Israeli Prime Minister has come to the USA every 4-6 months and spoken to the President or the Senate and claimed that Iran was 6 months away from having nuclear weapons........ all while Israel had their own nuclear weapons.

It just gets very old --- watching politicians from both major parties kiss the ring of lobbyist groups and PAC's like AIPAC, BC/BS, NRA and others.

 

44 Americans were killed in the October 7 attack by Palestinians.

41 Americans are confirmed dead and 23 are missing from the attack by Israel on Gaza.

approximately 1,200 were killed in the October 7 attack.

We are approaching 0,000 dead from the Israeli attack on Gaza.

No one talks about the Israeli attack on the West Bank, but that killed another 1,200 people.

There is also Israel deciding that they are just going to start taking parts of Lebanon and killing the Lebanese people living on the land while everyone was distracted by Iran.

Israel does not have the best interest of the USA people at heart. Israel zionism wants to expand their borders to the original borders of Israel over 2000 years ago. Israel has nuclear weapons....... Israel has received over 300 billion dollars in AID from the USA. That doesn't include the dark money that is protected as part of the national defense spending. That amount is very high. That money should go to the USA people.

 

Israel killed over 8 civilians for every terrorist in Gaza, and 29% of them were children. They have killed over 57,636 civilians, and 21,283 children in Gaza alone, and are now doing the same in the West Bank and Lebanon. They have more blood on their hands from more mothers, babies, and children than Hamas and Hezbollah combined.

 

I read what you wrote, but it’s wild to me that you genuinely believe Trump and Israel wouldn't have wiped Iran off the map if they had the chance.

Let's look at the facts: Iran figured out how to attach heat-seeking cameras to loitering munitions and knocked out our prized invisible to radar F-35. This whole conflict has been nothing but a huge slap in the face to our military's prestige. We don't even have a Fifth Fleet base in the Middle East anymore. Israel nearly ran out of advanced anti-missile interceptors, and honestly, we probably did too. Trump didn't go soft on Iran: he was forced into an unwinnable conflict because he bought into Israeli hype. If we nuked Tehran today, Tel Aviv gets nuked tomorrow. It's unfortunately that simple.

 

There is no such thing as moral authority to kill babies. If you think there is, you should seek professional psychological help ASAP. Please do not delay for the sake of babies.

Anyway, what you actually need to deal with are two things:
1-You supported giving Iran a pathway to a bomb
2-You supported Trump making Iran stronger in the long term.

Perhaps one day you can reconcile that with yourself and no longer support Trump, but I doubt it. You are more focused on supporting Trump than on preventing Iran from having a pathway to a bomb.