Mark my words. Reed’s minutes will disappear in the playoffs.

As much as I did love Morey's performance at the time and how he often kept us competitive on a shoe string, he has a lot to answer for, for completely screwing up a lot of Rockets fans perceptions of the sport. Half of them don't even realise that most of those metrics are estimates and have estimates, subjective weighting and bias baked into them vs actual statistics. It's wild. A lot of it isn't even difficult math, it's completely flawed.

 

We gave up 107 points and scored 98 points in Game 1 with Reed starting and playing 36 minutes.

We gave up 101 points and scored 94 points in Game 2 with Reed playing 11 minutes.

I know it's a very small sample size. It seems like the results are pretty much the same whether the kid play little minutes or big minutes, starting or not starting.

Reed's defensive liability is overstated. Reed's offensive impact doesn't seem to matter much either. My observation from the two games is that the Rockets have bad chemistry both on defense and on offense no matter what the lineup is. On offense, it's give the ball to Durant, and if that fails, give it to Sengun. Doesn't matter who else are on the floor. On defense, there are lots of miscommunications and missed assignments. Without Luka and Reaves, the Lakers are just not talented enough to score a lot of points.

 

At least from regular season senguin and Durant score way more/easier when Reed is on the floor. They can’t be doubled as much

wouldn’t it make sense though that the rockets didn’t score as much without Durant? Reed isn’t James harden..he’s just a very good role player that makes the team a lot better since it’s an offensive desert. As the sole scoring threat in a playoff game without many minutes the last 3 weeks (for whatever reason) it’s unlikely he would explode being thrown into the deep end.

 

You literally are talking about 2 games, that is a super small sample size, and Reed only took 4 shots yet was plus 1 - I will bet he would find his way because of the law of averages, and be a massive impact.

Here, I will play your small sample size game.

Reed, KD and Sengun were on the floor 4 minutes together total and the Rox won that 4 mins 14-4......and we never saw it again.

DD

 

Reed not being aggressive is not entiredly on Udoka


Kid has some weird Gen Z confidence issues. Sure being jerked around certainly doesn’t help along with constant minute and role change

 

My main issue with the play Reed more brigade is it’s always in addition to the KD/Sengun/Jabari trio. The matchups are just too horrendous with not enough speed and defensive ball pressure. Too many cookables.

Reed or Jabari should be the discussion. Not having a 2nd good POA defender isn’t an option worth considering. The Lakers are too comfortable with the ball.

 

Nosta****ingdamus.

 

Spot on.

I spent more time than I would like to admit arguing against the “just spam 3s no midrange all game” and other BS selection bias flawed statistics

The fake analytics stooges tried to distill complex interrelated math we can’t quantify properly into a 1 variable equation. @SamFisher made it his crusade and he’s eerily silent, even seems to think offense doesn’t matter now which is ironic


I would have Morey back over these chumps. At least it was fun to watch..and basketball is entertainment

 

I realised a few years back tbh that most of the "catch all" made up nonsense is mostly just to push the narrative of the pundit who created them. To the point it wouldn't be that surprising if they reverse engineered the formulae just to ensure they backed up the argument first whilst keeping it somewhat plausible. As soon as you add "weighting" you may as well just say "here is a metric that proves which players are best at the one thing I think is most important in a good player." Does that really sound like it has much true value in evaluation? Even worse when you start adding in "compared to an estimated fictional replacement player" - it's nonsense. The only place they actually "shine" is finding niche skillsets, which was actually the main point of the Moneyball concept in baseball that Morey adopted, it's not "who are the best players" at all, it's actually "who has these specific niche/weird skills we can weaponize to achieve results beyond the perceived value of these oddball or underrated CHEAP players." It doesn't evaluate stars, because it's not objective, you're just looking for a subjective trait you can try and use in an unorthodox way to achieve results IN PLACE OF A STAR. It's crazy how few people actually understand that tbh.

 

A coach has to recognize some need to be built up, some broken down, Ime is all one way.....Bobby Knight style and it sucks.

Even Larry Bird hated Bobby Knight style and left.

DD

 

Right, Game 1 didn't have Durant. So Reed helped to offset the lack of shooting.

I really think Reed's defensive issue is overstated. Udoka said after Game 2 that we only gave up 104 points, so the defense was okay. He didn't mention that the Lakers lost their top two scorers. The Rockets (with Reed playing only 11 minutes) let guys like Smart and Kennard torched them -- two guys each averaged 9 ppg in the season! Even without the numbers, the eye test tells you that the defense is chaotic. So benching a "defensive liability" did not really boost the defense at all.

 

Did you watch game ? Every laker was switching onto Reed and destroying him.

 

We need a 30 piece from him. If Luke flippin' Kennard can do it he should go for 40.

 

Ah yes, your eye test which doesn't align with reality. I'm convinced.

 

Yes 10 minutes of play time and that’s what it was.

did you watch the game?

 

These people are insane

 

Of course I watched the game. If hunting Reed "destroyed" the Rockets defense, explain to me why the Lakers scored only 107 points in a game Reed played 36 minutes?

I'm not saying Reed isn't a weak defender. I'm saying him causing bad Rockets defense is just a narrative.

 

Don't wnat to say I told you so, but I told you so.....mentally ill are us rockets fans who keep calling Reed Sheppard Curry, Sengun Jokic and Amen Westbrook....We need to be realistic, not continuously deluded

 

What was your old account