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[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. Andre0087

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    Depends on who you ask...

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    I thought he was gonna throw in the ballroom at the end...oh well, close enough to this current ****ery.
     
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    Very normal communications from a President.

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  4. Andre0087

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    You know why, the wealthy class has decided to pit Americans against each other since unlimited money is speech. Keep them fighting amongst each other while the bread goes up. There is no longer the Soviet communist threat hanging over their heads and they will extract every cent until there isn't anything left and flee somewhere else.

    IMO propaganda and general distrust of the opposing beliefs has to be at the highest since the Civil Rights era...
     
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    This is why nobody trusts the Trump regime
     
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    Satanyahu told his hoe Trump to stop acting up and do what she’s told

    Trump is not only a Putin prostitute, but he’s also Bibi’s streetwalker too
     
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    Or what?
     
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    I hope it doesn’t take all of that. Someone will emerge and break the hypnosis. Americans were close to it and that’s a big reason this war was demanded of Trump and Netanyahu. This time though, the war is barely reversing the tide. It’s interesting to watch.
     
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    I think its wild that these "podcast", "influencers" or whatever they are, were on the trump train for a decade and now there off, so I guess a little hope for my maga mom.....................LOL who am I kidding :D

    As Andre0087 said, the RICH are pitting us against each other, distract us with the media they own while they become Oligarchs who control 80% of the WEALTH. I am all for RICH folks like Gates Ex Wife who gives a large % of her money to charity...............funny how guys like Musk who get RICH off the backs of REAL Americans who don't give back.....its all about THEM

    Matthew 19:24 (NIV) states: "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

    The next time Musk backs a candidate in the mid-terms, ask yourself "why"
     
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  11. Reeko

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    “There are reports that Iran is charging fees
    to tankers going through the Hormuz Strait”

    Why does it sound like he’s finding out about the war via MSM and social media when he’s the president?

    “there are reports”…no, either they are or they aren’t…you should know
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    Maybe his next fake award should be President with the Biggest Paragraphs or President with the Most Insults in a Single Post Award.

    After all, if he isn't bragging about himself, he often just throws a bunch of angry rants, insults, lies, and nasty remarks into one really big paragraph. :p

    I laughed when I saw how many of the insults are a perfect reflection of himself. It's bizarre how the words he chooses fit him perfectly. He doesn't even realize it, which cracks me up. He has no clue how unhinged and manic he sounds. Imagine the mad hatter himself telling someone else they should see a psychiatrist. Hahahaha.
     
  13. Reeko

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    claims no one cares about Tucker Carlson, Coondace, Megyn Kelly, and Alex Jones…proceeds to type up his longest social media post to date to cry about them

    never seen somebody this childish and insecure

    and this is why the nonstop dick riding is so weird and puzzling to me

    no one has rode harder than Alex Jones…he’s been doing tricks on it for 10 years

    but the moment you stop praising dear leader for even one second, he will turn on you and throw you in the trash…he expects undying loyalty, but gives none in return

    had Pam Bondi on her knees begging for her job after she did all that work covering up his pedophilia

    Kristi Noem got 2 white people yeeted and sent to the upper room under her watch and then labeled them domestic terrorists…that’s how devoted she was to the cause…didn’t matter, she got the boot too
     
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    yesterday he said he knew they were going to and that he thought it was beautiful
     
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    on the other end of the economic spectrum, Japan has been hurt the most
     
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    8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

    9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

    12 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”

    We can do everything right and still lose...the game of life has never been a fair one.
     
  18. Amiga

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    podcast w/ two Atlantic staff writers who follow the military and foreign affairs, Nancy Youssef and Tom Nichols.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/04/iran-trump-war-cease-fire/686737

    Trump Is Wishcasting Victory in Iran
    The president went from threatening that “a whole civilization will die” to claiming a “total and complete victory.” What does the already shaky cease-fire mean as he tries to steer his way out of the war?

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    Harris: So, Tom, we’re speaking on Wednesday. As the clock was winding down on Tuesday, I guess a very blunt question: Did you think he was going to go through with the threats?

    Nichols: I didn’t think it was impossible, but I think it would’ve provoked a constitutional crisis, which means that it was much less likely than not to happen, because I think he would’ve had to order the military to do things that the military, this time, would’ve balked at.

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    Youssef: And I think there were a lot of Iranian people who welcomed it and even still welcomed it because there was such profound frustration with the regime. We had seen massive protests in the run-up to this in December and January, and real threats to the durability of the regime.

    But over time, not only through the strikes, but through the rhetoric we heard from the U.S., I think we saw an administration that conflated the regime and the people. And we use this phrase sort of “hearts and minds,” and maybe people are quick to dismiss it. But if the objective was to get the Iranian people to rise up and to challenge the government, it’s very hard to get that kind of mobilization when you’re also attacking them and making what they saw as derogatory comments about their religion on Easter Sunday and all these things.

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    Youssef: The other thing I wanna point out is, for all the reasons that the United States gave for conducting this war, Iran was very consistent throughout: They wanted to survive as a regime. They wanted compensation for the damages to their country. And so I think, to Tom’s point, when one side doesn’t have clear strategic aims and the other does, no amount of firepower can resolve that. And what you saw the Iranians do is take that strategy and marry it with an asymmetric-warfare approach to take away the advantage that the United States had, with much stronger munitions training, planes, weapons, ships. And so that’s where the strategy, I think, sort of—or lack thereof—played out on the battlefield.

    Nichols: The other is, this looks a lot like Ukraine. It was exactly the same imbalance of interests. [Russian President Vladimir] Putin went in, thought he was gonna just knock the Ukrainian regime over in a day—or three days or four days. But also, when that didn’t happen, Putin didn’t have a clear set of goals. It was just: throw more guys and more bodies, and blow up more buildings.

    And just like the Iranians, the Ukrainians had a strategic goal: survive, and control the territory and the government of Ukraine. And they have, so far.

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    Will Congress ever declare a war, or does it matter at this point?

    Nichols: No, and it doesn’t matter at this point. There’s a couple of things to think about and reasons that Democrats would be hesitant to declare a war as well. Wartime conditions vastly empower a president.

    What I think people like Tim Kaine and others among the Democrats wanted was a war-powers resolution, to be able to rein in Trump by law and by budgetary authority from this conflict. But now that it’s over—and I think it is over for the foreseeable future—there’s no point in it.

    Republicans didn’t wanna do it because Trump kept sending them signals: Stop saying “war”; it’s a military operation, which is part of the reason, I think, that the war was never popular. I’ve never seen this happen before, where a president embarks on a major military operation and not only gets no bump out of it, but actually starts to bleed support over time. Even in the first stages of Vietnam, the American people rallied around Lyndon Johnson. This is really unprecedented in modern times.

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    Harris: Yeah, and you said that you think that it’s over for the foreseeable future, right? But if we are operating under the idea that the cease-fire is tenuous, what leads you to say that it’s over?

    Nichols: Because Trump’s entire political body language for weeks now has been, Get me out of this.

    I think what we saw, from Easter onward and leading up to those really feverish statements, was panic and flailing. He lost control of the situation within the first week, when the things he wanted to happen didn’t happen.
    And ever since then, he’s been trying to manipulate markets and wish-cast solutions and announce things, hoping that just by announcing them they become reality, like deals: We’re gonna make a great deal. They’re begging me for a deal. None of that happened. And I think the last thing anybody wants in Washington right now is to have to go back into this.

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    Nichols: So every time you see Pete Hegseth, just assume that all he’s doing is speaking to Donald Trump and saying, Please keep me in my job.

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    Nichols: Boy, that is a great question because what would constitute more erratic than starting a war half a world away with a country of 90 million people and then threatening to erase their civilization from the planet?
    I think what you’re seeing, though, is Republicans, rather than rising in opposition or thinking about the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, they’re doing a much more time-honored Washington tradition. They’re going to the press, and they’re ratting each other out. And they’re distancing themselves from the president.

    That whole report about the decision to go to war, basically, you had everybody in the room saying, Well, I didn’t think it was a good idea.

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    Nichols: I think if the Democrats win in November, his presidency’s effectively over. And I think that will make him completely bananas, and he will say and do even crazier and more dangerous things that will harm the reputation of the presidency and the United States. But I also think that he will now be more constrained in what he can do, especially—I can’t believe that we’re even thinking of this, because this was impossible a few months ago—especially if he loses the House and the Senate. But if he loses the House, which you don’t ever wanna say anything’s inevitable, but seems inevitable, then I think you get crazier rhetoric, but more responsible government in the short term.

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    Youssef: The Gulf states had really pinned their security on their relationship with the United States. They had bases throughout the region because they thought those bases would be a security guarantee. As it turns out, it made them a bigger target. They had built defense relationships with the United States, hoping that that would lead to security, and again, it ended up making them a target. Now, there are a few options for the Gulf in terms of how they look at alternatives, but I do think we’re gonna see them start to diversify in light of how these past 39 days have gone.

    Nichols: One interesting thing here, I think, is we’ve worried a lot about terrorism and payback and all those other things that you should worry about when you embark on this kind of war. But Nancy’s point about the Gulf states—the Iranians may decide to play nice with Europe and the United States to keep us occupied elsewhere, but really take it out on the Gulf states and make it clear: Don’t ever do this again. You chose poorly. It’s possible that the Gulf states have to be more worried about that even than we do.
     
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    :D:D:D

    what got the obese orange mad
     
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    She would still vote for him. She said he could drop a nuke and she would still vote for him because Democrats are "nuking our cities" or something. She's getting buzz so she's stirring the pot. There's no genuine change of heart here.
     
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