We are not all equal. You can overcome challenges based on your starting point, and that includes economic status, access, race, and sex. But no, this world is not blind to color, sex, or how someone looks. This is not an opinion. There are blind resume studies and blind audition studies that show how women and minorities are at a disadvantage. That does not mean there is conscious racial oppression or even racism. Some like to call it structural or environmental racism, but I personally do not prefer those terms. I prefer to stick to the classic definition of racism, which is the belief that a race is inferior or superior. How we choose to handle that unequal starting point and that unfairness is up for debate, but that debate cannot even begin if people are grounded in the false belief that the world is blind to color, sex, or appearance today. Unfortunately, we are far from being there.
Sounds like excuses to me there is no racial oppression in this country. That’s all I can say right now. Happy Easter!
Patently false Let's discuss technicalities Does impeded mean it prevents you? No. Does it make it harder. Yes
I specifically said the studies do not prove conscious racial oppression or racism. I separated those things deliberately. So which part is the excuse, and why? Because right now you are dismissing peer-reviewed experimental data with a feeling. That is not an argument. Happy Easter.
Nah. Sorry. Your skin color doesn’t make your life harder than mine. It’s racist to assume that. Excuses. It’s all bullshit.
It looks like we’re talking past each other, because nothing in my post indicated I think it’s ok to be racist against one race and not another. I intentionally used “race A” and “race B” in the hypothetical. Which one is white or black or whatever makes no difference to the argument. A black person thinking black people are inherently superior to white people is just as bad as if you swapped “black” for “white” or whatever other race. I wasn’t comparing “white racism” to “black racism”. I was comparing a “racism” that assumes one race is superior to another (which does exist, even if it is not what “normal people” think) to a “racism” that denies this but still gives preferential treatment as a means to offset perceived societal inequality. I don’t see a reason to consider those forms of racism “equally bad”, again irrespective of the particular races involved.
Perceived is a good word. Perception. Not necessarily reality. A choice. A choice to see it how it suits you best. The vast majority (and I mean vast) of white people don’t assume they are superior to another race. No more than black people assume that black people are superior to other races. Ridiculous to say otherwise. Maybe you were taught this foolish narrative as a youngster, maybe you’re not from a diverse background and you let ignorant adults put this crap in your mind when you were young. Maybe you were taught this in college. You embrace the double standard and you fight like a chihuahua on my leg to defend it. So, because of your foolish false narratives, you insist that it’s ok for one group to exclude another, and only be concerned for the welfare of those with their own skin color. I can’t take you seriously.
My argument did not rest on any narratives of American society. How it applies to our politics is a separate issue. You seem unwilling to defend your statement “all racism is equally bad” as a general principle, and want to instead drag the conversation back into the fog of culture-war race politics in the US. That’s putting the cart before the horse. Not productive for seeking out common ground or understanding on what racism fundamentally means, which was my goal. Since we can’t agree on what we’re talking about or what the goal of the conversation is, there is no purpose in continuing. I’ll stop here.
We should close this retarrded thread started by the retarrded judo. After all, the collective IQs in the D&D are low enough already, we don’t want the Scamalis to make fun of us if we dipped any lower.
As you should. It’s not my job to teach you what racism is or what it means. That is not what this is about. All racism is equally bad is a perfectly legit statement. This is obviously not comparing violence with non-violence, and saying they are equal, like you are trying to pretend I am saying. You are going around the moon trying to argue that it’s ok for a certain group to be racist, reasoning that it’s not actually racist, due to some perceived marginalization that does not exist at all. I am not giving you that stupid crutch. I don’t accept victim mentality anymore. If you are racist, you’re racist. Doesn’t matter who you are racist toward. It’s all racism. It’s all bad. The poster said he didn’t think black people should go to the protests because it’s too dangerous for black people. He said this even though 2 white protesters were killed. Only black people being safe was his concern. This is racist and this is where the convo started. You wanted to defend that racist, garbage thinking.
Not completely unrelated. I am opening a new cafe where I work, in three weeks. My contracted POS provider is called Volante. We were looking at screen backgrounds as a template for my digital menu boards. Guess who the first template was that we viewed. Freakin Taco Johns. I thought of our conversations and chuckled.
Nay, you do not need to apologize. I can see that you are not interested in actually debating, but simply repeating the same statement. That is not surprising. Belief is one of the hardest things to break. And look, you clearly show that you hold a strong belief while ignoring the data pointing in a different direction. It seems you are stuck and unwilling to challenge your own assumptions. What you have is essentially stale and incorrect data, which naturally leads to incorrect conclusions. I will leave it here, since you are not actually interested in a debate, only repetition.
Your life is not harder than mine (or anyone else’s) because of your skin color. Sounds like you need that repeated to you.
