[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

You’re really naive if you think I can state this without going to jail, or you’re taking advantage of the fact that I can’t say it. Or that a money trail will ever be left behind. Or if you think you can prove in a court of law that Trump is doing this.

These people are not stupid.

 

lol Sure. Let’s make believe that you proved Trump is doing this and that you have standards about this.

Sorry I won’t participate in your partisan poo-flinging. I’m totally comfortable with your “concerns” about me.

 

Listen, I’m an experienced ex financial regulator from a jurisdiction where these transactions take place and I’ve seen inside these financial structures. If you don’t believe that, you can ask the owner of this board who had to delete the proof when I mistakenly sent it to a psychopath poster and he tried to endanger my safety.

What you’ve written here makes it clear you really have no idea how these things work, how these things are hidden and why they’re not prosecuted. You will never be able to prove these things in a court of law or connect the money trail. The fact that one President is brazen about it doesn’t mean he’s the only one who did it. There is not a single dollar that has gone into Trump’s own pocket yet from “ze Arabs”. Just like with the Clinton’s, it will be funneled through SPV’s and foundations into cash which will eventually be used to purchase things from him at exaggerated prices.

Sorry that makes you feel stupid but you may want to consider that if you’re the only one thinking my posts sound intelligent then maybe you just feel like an idiot. I’m just a regular guy of regular intelligence.

You’re in the habit of attacking my character out of prejudice when you hear something inconvenient. I try to keep it on topic with you but once personal attacks start, I’m no pacifist about it.

If that’s too much for you then you don’t have to tag me. We don’t have to debate.

 

Not looking to debate speculation, just wanted to flag something.

The financial mechanics mentioned (SPVs, foundations, inflated asset purchases) are real tools, no argument there. But notice the structure: the proof was deleted, you'll never trace the money, nothing has happened yet. That's unfalsifiable speculation dressed in regulatory vocabulary, not insider knowledge.

Meanwhile the Trump side of this isn't speculation at all. The Gulf state deals, the Qatar plane, the meme coin, LIV Golf. It's playing out in the open. One of these requires insider knowledge to believe. The other just requires reading the news.

 

Yes it would be nice if the US had a plan to solve the Strait of Hormuz Crisis that the US & Israel created by (illegally) waging war on Iran without any tangible plan as to what it was going to accomplish or any realistic goals

 

He’s a clown for his UAE, a giant shithole

 

I’m fairly certain this is a chatGPT response but I’ll entertain it.

1) Non-denial is not admission.

2) There’s actually no proof, as in legal documents, that Trump has personally inherited any of these. So, literally, nothing has happened yet. If it had, it would be flagged to authorities. The plane was a government to government transfer. The gulf state deals are non-binding long term “investments”.

3) The meme coins are a totally common business, even if it’s immoral and people start lawsuits.

I hope you don’t think I’m defending Trump here. I’m just saying if our standards for these things are “someone said it” or “it eventually ended up in his family’s hands” then this is far from the first time. He’s just the one who says “yeah my family did it” instead of doing it quietly. The Clinton Global Initiative and Clinton Foundation actually innovated how to increase the scale of this stuff to epic proportions. Prior to that, deals were simply folded into campaign finance (PACs) and post-presidency consultations and speaking arrangements.

I think if you guys open Wikileaks and search the names of Arab leaders you’re going to learn a lot.

 

War is over but somehow they keep attacking?


Really truly - short of something absurd like all the US planes getting shot down on the first day...

-not sure if this war could have realistically worked out to a worse strategic outcome for the United States and better for Iran & Russia.

Economic collapse, military degraded & weakness exposed, reputation even further tarnished

Just impressive level of failure caused 100% by the dumbest, most vile corrupt Epstein class piece of **** humans alive and their wanna be pedo cabal supporters like @basso

 

Wasn't going to debate speculation, but you're stating something specific, so...

1) It's speculation
2) It's public knowledge. The gov-to-gov transfer is just their way of trying to stay "legal". And if you haven't noticed, when they get taken to court, they usually lose. The reason nothing happens is a Republican Congress that doesn't want to touch it.
3) Fair enough; if we completely ignore the Emoluments clause (which we have)

No, I know you aren't defending Trump. But you're throwing all US presidents in the same bucket as if they're equivalent. They all have problems, but they're not even close. This one is way off on a different plank.

 

To add - if you follow US politics, you'll know that Congressional Republicans accused SoS Hillary of corruption with the Clinton Foundation and investigated it extensively. The DOJ looked into it during both the Obama and 1st Trump admin. Nothing was found. "They are all the same" is what I'm pushing back on. But we are going way off topic now, so I'll stop here.

 

We are a month and we still don’t know the objective of this war.

 

Open straighttttt

 

No regime change
Allies in Middle East pissed at us
Innocent people dying
Likely someone worse ruling Iran
Increased hatred for America in the Middle East
Domestic prices getting higher
Economic uncertainty

If Trump had those objectives, he's a massive success!

 

The one that was open before the war?

 

Is "dropping bombs on Iran is so much fun!" an objective?

Asking for a friend.

 

He pretends that he is loved by all, respected by all, because he's completely blinded by reality. More and more people around the world are disgusted by his power mongering and complete lack of empathy for all those suffering worldwide because of his actions and policies.